The Phoenix shouldn't even be a part of this discussion since it's not a mutant. Darn the topic creator for adding them in there! Xplosive has a point though. SW is more powerful than Jean Grey the mutant, but its debatable if she is more powerful than Jean/WP.
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The topic says Jean/Phoenix not the Phoenix Force. White Phoenix is Jean Grey, a mutant, reaching the level of white phoenix is a part of her mutation, she evolved into it especially since she now has her mutant body with her in the white hot room. Even if it weren't pertaining to the White Phoenix, Jean/Phoenix is still a mutant as it was her code name for a number of years. It's like saying Bobby/Iceman.
Last edited by LordKaos on Oct 13th, 2008 at 06:43 PM
Hmm shouldnt like Exodus, Legion and franklin richards be on that not to mention Onslaught who technically was a mutant.
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She does not just possess a part of the PF, she actually IS the PF in a human form. And the thing that forged this duality is her genetic code, her mutation, so it very well counts!!!
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listen up people. I think that the strongest mutant is the person with the worst luck. That would be Nightcrawler. How does he start his life? Chased by a mob and chucked over a bridge into a river. Saved by a demon dad... put in a circus freak show, drugged and locked in a cage, escapes to be chased by mobs, lives as a monk, finds out that Mistique is his mother, hears from her personally that she never loved him, joins the x-men, has an affair with the Scarlet Witch (see Wolverine and the X-Men) that ends very shortly when she nearly explodes him, finds out he has a daughter from an alternate demension, that his wife from an alternate dimension was the Scarlet Witch, is always put down in the comics and TV shows, is always getting banged around left and right. I'm sorry... some might say Logan... others Juggy... but I'm stickin with Nighty. Worst luck equals strongest for me.
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you didnt mention one of the strongest ever, onslaught. which is actually just xavier really evil and usingall his power so i say xavier is the most powerful when he uses ALL his power but i cant vote since its closed
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Last edited by niduin on Mar 31st, 2009 at 06:44 AM
In which way?
She's not overused and hyped like ... let's say ... a certain feral mutant.
She's a primary force of the universe like some abstracts (are those also overpowered?) and as such has control over universes, which she only used once on panel. So ... ???
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