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The most powerful mutant in the x-verse
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Dark phoenix 11 30.56%
Jean grey/phoenix 13 36.11%
Emma frost 0 0%
Storm 3 8.33%
Charles xavier 1 2.78%
Cable 1 2.78%
Rachel summers 0 0%
Apocalypse 4 11.11%
Pyslocke 1 2.78%
Rogue 2 5.56%
Total: 36 votes 100%
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Guys... I hate to say this but your all wrong. NIGHTCRAWLER IN A BIG WAY. How does a freakin baby survive a 40 foot drop off of a bridge into the rapids while his mother runs for her life??? Sorry... Nighty wins this one.


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In which way?
She's not overused and hyped like ... let's say ... a certain feral mutant.
She's a primary force of the universe like some abstracts (are those also overpowered?) and as such has control over universes, which she only used once on panel. So ... ???


Right and holding the universe in the palm of your hands, being able to defeat any character with relative ease isn't being overpowered.

I have read the vs threads and theres a reason the phoenix(especially white crown) isn't used in a vs debate due to it/her sheer overpoweredness.

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Right and holding the universe in the palm of your hands, being able to defeat any character with relative ease isn't being overpowered.

I have read the vs threads and theres a reason the phoenix(especially white crown) isn't used in a vs debate due to it/her sheer overpoweredness.


HALEIGHLUIAH PRAISE THE LORD! So I'm not the only one who thinks Pheonix is an overpowered B****! YES! I mean, I think Logan is a little overdurable but the Pheonix is a load of bullcrap


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True, but at least it gave Jean some actual character.


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I think the whole Mutant Zero thing verified my assertion that if she had her marbles straight, Typhoid could be incredibly powerful.


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Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Right and holding the universe in the palm of your hands, being able to defeat any character with relative ease isn't being overpowered.

I have read the vs threads and theres a reason the phoenix(especially white crown) isn't used in a vs debate due to it/her sheer overpoweredness.

Maybe, but who cares? She's only coming in this incarnation in extreme situations recquiring such a power level. If she'd be WPotC all the time, fighting people, who have clearly no chance in the first place, i would bother, but since she's not handled this way ...


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Maybe, but who cares? She's only coming in this incarnation in extreme situations recquiring such a power level. If she'd be WPotC all the time, fighting people, who have clearly no chance in the first place, i would bother, but since she's not handled this way ...
Apparently she is when it comes to vs debates.

There are even people stupid enough to think that she could kill a full powered galactus, wipe out tiamut the dreaming celestial, make the LT blow bagpipes out of his ass and DDT the one above all with a blink of her eye.

The reason i dislike all those characters like beyonder, galactus, phoenix LT thanos with IG is due to them being ridiculously overpowered sometimes.

Sure wolverine sometimes seems overdurable but does he holds a universe in his palm and takes a dump in it?

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Lol this thread still going yeah i know the phoenix is a cosmic force who possesses jean from time to time i just added it to the list along with dark phoenix but that's why i said to not just pick from the list, there's so many mutants and didn't have enough room in the poll for every mutant going in the x-verse.


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Apparently she is when it comes to vs debates.

If it's her representation in the vs debates that's bothering you, DON'T ATTEND TO THOSE. In the comics you will certainly not stumble about WPotC very often, if at all, so why bother?

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There are even people stupid enough to think that she could kill a full powered galactus, wipe out tiamut the dreaming celestial, make the LT blow bagpipes out of his ass and DDT the one above all with a blink of her eye.

Well, i don't know enough about most abstracts, cause just like you i happen to despise those cosmic powered beings, but clearly WPotC is much more powerful than even a full powered Galactus. Any other incarnation might be debated, but clearly not this one.

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The reason i dislike all those characters like beyonder, galactus, phoenix LT thanos with IG is due to them being ridiculously overpowered sometimes.

As i said above, i feel the same. Those characters bore me to death. What i liked most about WPofC was the fact hat she only did something that mattered once and without a fight. Otherwise she thankfully is only referred to or pretty much left alone. Hope it stays that way.

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Sure wolverine sometimes seems overdurable but does he holds a universe in his palm and takes a dump in it?

He certainly does not, but when i think about what bothers me more, a streetleveler who's used in almost every comic book series at the same time and constantly pushed to or over the edge of his powers, defeating pretty much anyone, no matter how ridiculous it may seem, or a nigh almighty cosmic entity, that's hardly used at all, and if used is pretty much nothing but a cosmic plumber ... well ... i guess you know in which direction this goes.


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If it's her representation in the vs debates that's bothering you, DON'T ATTEND TO THOSE. In the comics you will certainly not stumble about WPotC very often, if at all, so why bother?
It doesn't bother me and why bother? I bother because certain fanboys overhype and super over rate the white phoenix(galacticstorm especially) and he even went as far as he could to claim that TOAA(god) does not exist and is non canon when in fact he is.



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Well, i don't know enough about most abstracts, cause just like you i happen to despise those cosmic powered beings, but clearly WPotC is much more powerful than even a full powered Galactus. Any other incarnation might be debated, but clearly not this one.
A semi decently fed galactus was already able to blow up an entire universe within an instant, i don't have that scan but that mr master does.

I doubt WPOTC far surpasses a full powered galactus but maybe on par because we have never actually seen galactus at his maximum potential, i certainly have seen what he did at half power blowing up universes with ease.

And what was her greatest feat? Changing the reality when an alternate reality universe was in her palm? The fact that she could only do it in the white hot room?

BTW the living tribunal is more than a match for WPOTC according to an out of universe source, only somebody as obsessed as galacticstorm would attempt to argue against this :

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As i said above, i feel the same. Those characters bore me to death. What i liked most about WPofC was the fact hat she only did something that mattered once and without a fight. Otherwise she thankfully is only referred to or pretty much left alone. Hope it stays that way.
Im sincerely glad we feel the same way smile
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He certainly does not, but when i think about what bothers me more, a streetleveler who's used in almost every comic book series at the same time and constantly pushed to or over the edge of his powers, defeating pretty much anyone, no matter how ridiculous it may seem, or a nigh almighty cosmic entity, that's hardly used at all, and if used is pretty much nothing but a cosmic plumber ... well ... i guess you know in which direction this goes.
Yea well to be honest i'm more of a fan of ultimate marvel than the mainstream comics.

Hell i even llike the ultimate version of the phoenix although she is a little bit overpowered(im looking at the apocalypse fight).

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Phoenix/Dark Phoenix is the most powerful mutant, but without the Phoenix Force, Mr. M trumps all of them.

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Phoenix isn't a mutant... its a cosmic being, a primal force.

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Phoenix/Dark Phoenix is the most powerful mutant, but without the Phoenix Force, Mr. M trumps all of them.
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It doesn't bother me and why bother? I bother because certain fanboys overhype and super over rate the white phoenix(galacticstorm especially) and he even went as far as he could to claim that TOAA(god) does not exist and is non canon when in fact he is.

So it DOES bother you, otherwise you wouldn't complain, would you?! wink
Again: Don't attend to Phoenix-related threads then.

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BTW the living tribunal is more than a match for WPOTC according to an out of universe source, only somebody as obsessed as galacticstorm would attempt to argue against this :

Why pointing that out to me? I never doubted or questioned that in any way! confused

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Phoenix isn't a mutant... its a cosmic being, a primal force.:

Yeah, but her corporeal form is one of a human mutant whose genetic code forges the bond between flesh and cosmic force. So she is a mutant who happens to be the embodyment of what you said.


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So it DOES bother you, otherwise you wouldn't complain, would you?! wink
Again: Don't attend to Phoenix-related threads then.
Good point. But i'll just take a peak.

To be honest though it isn't the phoenix itself that annoys me, its obsessive people like galacticstorm and people that masturbate to jean grey panels that over exaggerate her cosmic powers which is actually what annoys me, funny that i just realized this stick out tongue

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Why pointing that out to me? I never doubted or questioned that in any way! confused
Haha my apologies, i got a little carried away but i never thought that you questioned it.

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Yeah, but her corporeal form is one of a human mutant whose genetic code forges the bond between flesh and cosmic force. So she is a mutant who happens to be the embodyment of what you said.
Thanks for clearing that up.

I don't have much knowledge on the mainstream 616 comics so i may be a little ignorant on certain subjects involving the 616 comics.

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none of the above.
either but not limited to....
Franklin Richards
Jim Jaspers
Jamie Braddok

the Phoenix Entity is not a mutant


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Yeah, Jaspers and Jamie are probably the tops, with Jaspers edging out the win because he was stated to be a multi universal threat. And 616 is more powerful than the one that was defeated. Phoenix is not a mutant, and neither is Franklin, I think he got his powers because his parents(Sue Storm and Namor) both had powers.

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Franklin Richards is a mutant. And is the most powerful.


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He is, that's right, but Sue still cheats on Reed.

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... the Phoenix Entity is not a mutant

The pure energy of the Phoenix Force isn't, but Phoenix very well is. Is Havoc not a mutant just because he's using cosmic radiation as an energy source, or is Bishop not a mutant just because he channels any kind of energy? Jeans genetic makeup, HER MUTATION, forges a bond to the PF, makes her one with it. So to say Phoenix is not a mutant just because she controls (is) the energies of the PF is not correct.


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