__________________ Harry Callahan: Well, when an adult male is chasing a female with intent to commit rape, I shoot the bastard. That's my policy.
The Mayor: Intent? How did you establish that?
Harry Callahan: When a man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher's knife and a hard-on, I figure he isn't out collecting for the Red Cross!
I believe that characters still retain their personality for these fights unless bloodlust is on. Batman could always use a bat grenade to blow someone's head off, doesn't mean he will do it. Same applies to non-bloodlust KMC fights.
Nightwing dodges bullets from highly trained assassins. Punisher is obviously a superb marksmen but he doesn't often fight opponents who've been commented as "one day surpassing Batman"
Boring.....I wanna hear some shit like NW is miles ahead in martial skill than frank is and hes going to dodge his bullets and kick his ass.
Thats more like it.
NW isn't better than Batman at the moment.
Frank doesnt usually fight people like NW but when he does he has shown on many ocassions to have done very well.
Frank has shot:
Captain America (not sure about the cirumstances but im getting the graphic novel)
Spiderman twice and pinned him with a knife.
Shot Daredevil and has collapsed a chimney on him using his gun. In one of there most recent fights theres a reasonable chance he could have shot DD after knocking him on the floor.
DD, Spiderman and Cap are faster than NW. Even if he dodges the bullets hes not beating him in h2h.
Last edited by Deadline on Aug 23rd, 2008 at 07:48 PM
Never said he was. But Nightwing is possibly the greatest acrobat in the DCU at the moment. I was just reminding people of his status.
I'm sure he has, and I'm sure it was a great story but If Cap can normally dodge shots from expert marksmen. If he can evade Bullseye, why not Frank? Anyway this is A>B>C logic which really shouldn't be used in vs matches.....
Again A>B>C logic.....
If you're referring to the Cable car they fought in then that was P.I.S as Spidey should totally own Frank. Spidey vs Punisher shouldn't be a match up. Spidey could (If he wanted to) Decapitate Frank with a punch.
Again with the A>B>C logic
In this instance Frank could beat DD, I agree. But DD has also beaten Frank, OFTEN In fact pretty much every issue of DD vs Punisher consisted of Frank getting his butt handed to him DD even beat Frank whilst attempting to get to a man who had been shot.
1) Spider faster than NW? Definitely
Cap faster? Probably
DD faster? Your opinion.
2) Your using A>B>C logic again!!! That's no indication of why Punisher should win the majority of fights.
Frank has beaten DD often as well. DD was not kicking his ass in every fight inn DD vs Pun..in theres first fight DD ended up on his ass and the reason why he lost the fight you mentioned was because he was trying to save somebody else.... ...what happened in the last fight?
edit: Frank has beaten DD twice im not sure if MK is canon but some of DDs wins have cirumstances.
Ok so what logic are you using to say that NW beats Frank 7/10? Please explain why NW wins.
Last edited by Deadline on Aug 23rd, 2008 at 08:14 PM
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edit: when you say sniped you don't mean literially? Even if it was h2h I think its at least a split or 6/10 to Pun.
