When did they fight? I only remember that little fight (i wouldn't even call it a fight) after Cap's death. And I remember that Frank said that Bucky could kill him if they really fought h2h and he also said that Bucky's a retard if he thinks that Frank is affraid of him. That's how I remember it. And NW>Bucky because of the feats. I mean like being surrounded in a ROOM by a dozen soldiers with AKs and beating the crap outta them with his bare hands.
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Frank put a gun to Buckys chin and he backed off from breaking his neck. Stalemate. It was in the lastest PWJ series scans should be in the respect thread cant be arsed to get them.
I really wouldnt be suprised if Bukcy could do the same. Howvere hes owned 2 of the Young Avenges and im pretty sure they could beat the crap out of a dozen soldiers.
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Then I'd have to go thru the respect thread again and drag over scans...and that bores me. I judge Marvel and DC characters based off what I myself have seen...in terms of H2H I think they are equal, actually DD should win more often that not...everything else even with the exception of Agility, which NW is better imo. I cant remember any particular moment in his history where I was like "HEY NIGHTWING IS MORE AGILE THAN MATT BASED OFF THIS SCENE!!" but over the years i've formed my own opinions and unless proven otherwise I shall stick with them
He really might have hes a trained killer and he was pissed off. Also if he really wanted im sure he knows ways in which he could apply enough pressure to KO him.
Doesnt matter guns are allowed in this thread.
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I do not doubt that he's physically capable of that. Im just saying I dont think he would've.
Yeah, but didn't you say that Punisher can win this fight h2h too? And if Frank can't beat Bucky and NW is either = or even more likely > than Bucky he'd definitely beat Frank in h2h fight.
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That's another example of the ABC logic i've used earlier and I already admitted its stupid. Feats is what counts at the end of the day. And feats say that NW is stronger faster has better reflexes and is a better fighter than Punisher. Frank barely survived an ambush of few ninjas with katanas. Dick beats dozen ninjas with ease and for fun. And im not even talking about his bullet dodging feats.
Dont really have to. Feats speak for themselvs.
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1. Sometimes ABC logic isnt that bad, for example the opponents you can beat can indicate what tier you are in at least but not neccesarily who you will lose against in that tier.
2. Feats arent neccesarilay what counts thats what you're telling me. Every single opponent that Punisher has done well against has better feat than he does, so feats are not conclusive.
Well you gave one example and I matched it with something else. Anyway im not currently collecting Cap so I could missing some shit.
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That's how I remember it. And NW>Bucky because of the feats. I mean like being surrounded in a ROOM by a dozen soldiers with AKs and beating the crap outta them with his bare hands.
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