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He has an energy device, that can make any weapon he wishes, I not sure I call that unarmed.


Any weapon he wishes? I thought it could only generate the shield embarrasment


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Any weapon he wishes? I thought it could only generate the shield embarrasment

Any melee weapon. It the same one I believe he used back in the day. He tends to make it into a shield, but it actually can make any weapon. It based of the same design as taskmasters.

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he has made it into a shield and energy blast in the past...


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Shield Bash takes this.


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he has made it into a shield and energy blast in the past...

He made it into a sword once and nunchucks as well if note mistaken.

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Moon Knight still has the superior tech with his exploding darts and what not and his carbonadium armor. We also have to wait to see if Moon Knight regained his super powers.

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Moon Knight still has the superior tech with his exploding darts and what not and his carbonadium armor. We also have to wait to see if Moon Knight regained his super powers.

tech being superior is good and all, but is easily combated with his inferior physical abilities. Exploding darts can easily be blocked by capt shield, or simply dodged. Armor could pose problems, but capt can easily get around such defenses, sure it makes it harder, but that alone won't give the inferior fighter the win.




also as of now he has no powers.

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tech being superior is good and all, but is easily combated with his inferior physical abilities. Exploding darts can easily be blocked by capt shield, or simply dodged. Armor could pose problems, but capt can easily get around such defenses, sure it makes it harder, but that alone won't give the inferior fighter the win.




also as of now he has no powers.


our whole post assumes that steve is leagues above marc which is simply not true, I mean KM has posted the scans of MK vs. Shadow Land DareDevil, MK is no slacker and again MK took out Deadpool, Wade almost killed Steve when he got serious.

These instances don't show that Marc is better than Steve, but it shows that , physically, Rogers isn't superior by a large margin.

From a distance Moon Knight has the advantage (also depends on MK has access to his vehicles). Moon Knight is more durable and has gadgets that have put down the Hulk, so being a slightly inferior fighter won't give Steve the win. Especially now that he doesn't have his shield.

As of now he has just agreed to serve Khonshu again so he most likely has his powers.

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why would any hero be allowed to use their vehicles in fights? no expression


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why would any hero be allowed to use their vehicles in fights? no expression
Standard equipment. Ghost Rider would be allowed his bike, Silver Surfer would be allowed his board, etc.

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Batman would be allowed his Batmoble, Batplane... etc etc..

Ghostrider and his bike is one thing as is SS.

it's actually a meta/physical connection. they arent separate from them MK's chopper and wing are different how often in comics do you see them using them in battle?


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why would any hero be allowed to use their vehicles in fights? no expression


It's not his main vechile, that's his Mooncopter. The Angelwing was built specifically to take into battle and isn't large by any means


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it's actually a meta/physical connection. they arent separate from them MK's chopper and wing are different how often in comics do you see them using them in battle?


The Angelwing is not the copter, and he brought the Angelwing all the time into battle during vol.3 and recently in his new run.


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by this logic Batman is allowed his Batmoble/batwing in battle b/c they were build to bring him to battle and it has bn used for decades and both have more on panel display then moony..

this changes everything.

i'll be back gotta give Bat's wins in forum fights.


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Ummmm....the Angelwing isn't anything like the Batmobile, your thinking of the Mooncopter. The Angelwing is basically like the Green Goblin's glider.


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our whole post assumes that steve is leagues above marc which is simply not true, I mean KM has posted the scans of MK vs. Shadow Land DareDevil, MK is no slacker and again MK took out Deadpool, Wade almost killed Steve when he got serious.

when did I once stated that capt was leagues above marc? Yes and what does shadow land DD feat show? That MK has good damage soak and can hit pretty hard, nothing more, nothing less.MK did take out DP, true, but he was not fighting a "serous" wade like capt did. Nor was capt blood lusted like MK.





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instances don't show that Marc is better than Steve, but it shows that , physically, Rogers isn't superior by a large margin.

Not really, niether proof that. Capt is superior to marc in every sense. Is it a huge kap? no, but there is a differences, just like with eveyr human capt fights, such as DD, punisher ect.

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a distance Moon Knight has the advantage (also depends on MK has access to his vehicles). Moon Knight is more durable and has gadgets that have put down the Hulk

why would he have access to his vehicles..........


Moonknight range advantages would be meaningless, capt can easily block or dodge all projectiles. Might knight is more durable because of his suit. He however not as strong, not as faster, far less stamina, not as agile, slower reflexes, and inferior fighter.

His gadgets put down the hulk? Capt punches put down the Hulk.......do you really wanna play that pis game with Capt?

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being a slightly inferior fighter won't give Steve the win. Especially now that he doesn't have his shield.

Perhaps, but being inferior fighter, slower,less agile, slower reaction speed, far inferior stamina will.

Again, now Steve has a device which will create any melee weapon he wants. including his shield.........so stop pretending he now at some magical disadvantage with out his shield. He shown in the past to be just as effective with this device.


As of now he has just agreed to serve Khonshu again so he most likely has his powers. [/B][/QUOTE]

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Ummm...MK was bloodlusted against DP?

Also his suit amps his physical attributes, it's not a cloth suit.

The angelwing is remote controlled and he brings it into battle. It was built for that reason...so yes he would have access to it


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Also his suit amps his physical attributes, it's not a cloth suit.



you must think, I find cloth to be really durable

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. Might knight is more durable because of his suit.



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you must think, I find cloth to be really durable

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Durability is one thing it gives, he even matched Spider-Man's agility not to long ago when they fought Sandman. Even Spider-Man was impressed he was keeping up with him.


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Wade almost killed Steve when he got serious.




He had the upper hand in the end.... but Cap had the advantage on a big part of the fight. I'll give him the advantage in the end but it was interrupted so to say he was almost killed is not even remotely true.

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