Not wrong. On some things, cos Russell is more powerful, which makes Eric's punking of Russell that much more glorious, Russell was punked by someone who should be his inferior. Epic levels on punking.
Keep crying cos a Mod warned you
That's what I just told you, we don't know yet. You're the one making absolute claims about Warlow when we don't know.
Cos Russell is a gaylord and wouldn't want to have sex with Sookie. Did you not know Russell was a puff?
That's like when Sookie owns someone or Bill has someone killed with help. We know these characters won't die. Context.
Eric can't beat him straight up no matter what. That's awesome. He can't even begin to screw with him straight up. Using prep and taking him on fighting another realm of opponents is cowardly.
Cry because your forum is boring and a ghost town.
We will see who is right. I bet I am. You claim he can survive the ball. We will see what happens.
Russell glamoured Jason and doesn't let anyone get in the way of Fae whereas Warlow is guilty and doesn't want to do it.
There are at least 2 instances where she straight up humiliated him. One more, if you count what she did to Talbot.
A semi-halfling fae beat, nay, humiliated Russell. You're damn right Warlow was bfred, because there is no known way he can succumb to the true death, unlike Russell who's still mortal. The fae king was the one who actually snuck up on Warlow, not to mention he had help from Jason, and still they spectacularly failed. Compare that to Russell, using Jason and Newlin as hostages and human shields to get a lucky speedblitz on the Elder. Clearly, in the world of your phail logic, that somehow implies a greater feat for Russell.
Eric has never been beaten by a fae before. Eric also killed a fae-enhanced Russell. According to you, Eric>>>Warlow>>>>Russell.
So you admit that there is context in this as yet inconclusive encounter between Sookie and Warlow, and you still try to spin that into some sort of low feat for him? At least we know that it takes a supernova blast to hurt him, unlike Russell getting incapacitated by a regular faerie blast.
Russell slaughters fae, does he? You're mentioning that when comparing him with a vampire who has been doing NOTHING BUT slaughter entire herds of fae across the millennia? Really?
Of course Walow doesn't have the sunlight weakness, thanks for pointing out the obvious. We know exactly how Russell vs Lilith would play out: with Russell getting reduced to a pile of crimson goo.
Warlow is at least 2500 years older than Russell. The age gap(and subsequently strength gap) between them is greater than that between Russell and Roman, and we know what happened to Roman.
Throw in the fact that Warlow doesn't even have the traditional vampire weaknesses(he's shown immunity to both sunlight and silver and is probably immune to staking as well like his maker Lilith), along with the fact that he can produce those faerie blasts which have hurt Russell before, and the result is that Russell would be lucky to last even 3 seconds against him.
The preview already shows her stinging him with her supernova blast. Since he is supposed to have flashbacks of his time with Lilith later in the episode, he is going to survive that encounter. Sookie used to humiliate Russell with normal faerie blasts as well.
She never had a faerie king teach her a speacialized vampire one-shot kill trick during the Russell-era. Why do you keep forgetting that?
Warlow glamored Jason as well, what's your point? Warlow sure as hell wasn't guilty when he slaughtered Niall's fae village, or that fae club that he reduced to pile of dust.
Christ, the most active discussion I've seen in this thread...and it's about power levels.
The best part of the new season has been Eric's one man war on humankind. The Were situation is very interesting as well, since it's basically a massive wildcard. I'm not looking forward to the inevitable Sam/Alcide showdown, since I like them both. Hopefully it can be resolved with the two of them making it out alive, and quickly shifting True blood into a bromance show between Sam, Andy, Lafayette and Alcide as they make their way through a world at war with vampires.
he had silver wrapped around him and was just baking in the sun. She never defeated him once. You really just go from one random incoherent statement to the next. News flash Shes a main character he was not going to kill her off. She would never take him on one on one if she could help it. She went after Warlow by herself. She let the Faerie Elder take him on for her. Cowardice in the face of Russell who was not silvered or baking in the sun.
He was weakened. Who cares ? She can't do that if he isn't weakened. Faeries bfr. He was bfr'd. They weren't trying to kill him just bfr him which worked. The same tactic was tried and failed by Elder against Russell. Russell is immortal just like Warlow. We just don't know yet what can kill Warlow. He isn't unkillable.
Warlow was waiting for him and snuck up on Niall. He got the jump on them. Russell used Jason and then speed blitzed her not out of luck but out of skill. There's a reason she feared him. He's the greatest vampire the show has ever seen.
Eric has been beaten by Russell. By your logic in a fair fight Eric is greater than Warlow. I wouldn't say that but you are. Russell is beyond Eric and Fae unlike Warlow.
When was Russell ko'd by a faerie blast ? Russell was knocked back while weakened still. He was never ko'd. At this point Eric was a threat to him as he was not at full strength. You're so easy to expose. I always break you down.
Russell has never lost to one whereas Warlow has. Oh well.
How do we know that when Eric and Sookie alone managed to stake him ? Russell sonned an entire room of vampires along with Eric.
Warlow has Fae blood which means he is ripe to be preyed upon here. We also see how strong Russell is. His feats are the best on the show. Once he sinks his fangs into the Fae blood its game over.
Russell bites him game over. We've seen a fully powered Russell walk through Sookie and an entire realms faerie blasts.
I know Warlow doesn't die I've already said as much. Lets see how impressive he looks after this encounter. He was not at full power. We see him tank her and an entire realms at full power. Context.
Based on that blast killing which vampires do you assume it kills Russell ?
Yes, he was hence his speech. Why do you think he spit out Niall's Fae blood ? Once he starts drinking it he cannot stop. He spares him because he's at war with himself. He has these urges as a vampire despite being born a Fae.
Russell has no inner battle going on. He's just evil whereas Warlow isn't. Russell would slaughter him. Greater feats and vampires destroy Fae. Once he bit into that Fae blood it is game over.
I think the best part of this season is Warlow and his backdrop. We are seeing a hybrid at odds with himself which is entirely different than the evil vampire as Russell. I knew they'd be completely different than each other while two noobs said they were copies of each other.
at your claims that Sookie beat Warlow when we don't know and logic tells us she probably couldn't do it alone, considering his age and his mixed lineage.
Eric punked him and then did beat him. So keep crying.
at you still checking into the MVF and crying cos a Mod warned you. I've been warned before, never did cross-forum-crying over it. Buck up.
Considering in the previews of next week Warlow isn't dead, it stands to reason Sookie didn't kill him, you silly little man.
Who the hell cares if Russell glamored Jason. Warlow has too. IIRC, other vampires have glamored Jason as well. The hell are you on about.
She blasted him when awoke again after Salome freed him. She was ready to take on him, but the Faerie Elder insisted on going after Russell herself for some reason. So you admit that her being the main character is reason that he never got the chance to kill her? Then you should have no problem admitting that since Warlow killed her parents, coupled with the fact she now knows how to make a supernova blast, Sookie is much more inclined and well-prepped to take on Warlow than she was with Russell.
Who was weakened? Warlow, Russell, or the fae king? What makes you think they weren't trying to kill Warlow? How would you know? We've seen the adverse effects just one faerie blast can have on vampires, and multiple such blasts should be capable of killing one. Of course we don't what can kill Warlow, but we do know what can kill Russell, and these same tactics won't work on Warlow. Sunlight and silver have failed, and I'd be willing to wager stakes would fail too as Warlow is Lilith'sprogeny, he has her blood in his veins.
After they attempted to sneak up on him. The means by which he achieved this feat is no different from Russell getting lucky against that turbo-charged faerie. She didn't fear him enough to not want to take on him on her own.
How does Eric being beaten(notwithstanding that they never actually had a true fight in the show) by Russell indicate superiority over Warlow? Sure, getting bfred by fae would make Eric>Warlow, although I don't subscribe to this form of quanlogic. But how Russell? If anything, Russell getting killed by a much weaker vampire shows Warlow>Russell, as Warlow has 1)never been beaten by a vampire as far as we know, and 2)he killed his maker Lilith, who is a much more powerful vampire than himself. Warlow is beyond Russell.
I said incapacitated, not ko'd. There's a difference between the 2 in the context in which I used the term, a difference that escapes you for some reason.
Warlow has merely been bfred, not actually beaten. Warlow has also destroyed an entire village of fae on his own, and nearly killed the king of all fae. Russell would never be able to do that, unless he was jacked up on faerie blood.
Eric never staked him, he was getting pwned. Sookie got the drop on him because he was preoccupied with Eric. The staking didn't work anyways, so I don't know what you're bringing that up for. And while you're going about using surprise attacks as low feats for Bilith, don't forget that Russell was also restrained in silver handcuffs by Eric. It's clearly unquestionable at this point that Lilith would reduce Russell to a pile of gooey bloody goo if they were to ever fight. There's a reason he was awestruck when he first laid eyes on her. She's much older and much stronger than him, not to mention her telekinetic abilities and immunity to staking.
Warlow having fae blood makes him vulnerable how? In case you've forgotten, he's also a vampire, who happens to be much older than Russell, and him having fae blood is actually an advantage, as a weaker vampire like Russell would be distracted by his smell, and Warlow would just go on to behead him.
Russell biting him would be as effective as you actually trying to engage in logical debate. Which is to say, not effective at all. Warlow would simply throw him off, and then decapitate him. Or blast him away into the dark realm where he bfred Niall. Or just drain him of ALL his blood, which can also be lethal to a vampire.
Lol, Russell was high on the Elder's blood when he resisted the young faes' attacks. Had he not been so, he would have severely injured, if not outright killed.
What full power bullshit are you talking about now? That so-called full power was Russell being high on a 1000-year old faerie's blood. Leave out the context all you want, I'll continue to hamper you by pointing it out.
Based on that blast being more powerful than the Sun, along with the fact that I trust the character Niall Brigant's opinion over yours.
He has more experience at killing and draining faeries than any other vampire does. Of course, by now he would be expected to be able to restrain himself. That along with the fact that he can sustain himself on human food and his own blood has the fae properties which allow him to daywalk?
Russell has no inner battle going on, because he has no fae inside him. Warlow is a unique being, so far the only one of his kind. Although I expect that Bilith would probably turn Andy's daughters in the next episode(what do you think about that?). Russell wouldn't slaughter Warlow by any means, considering how Warlow is 1)older and stronger, 2)has none of the main vampire weaknesses like sunlight and silver, and 3) he has ruthlessly killed more fae than those which Russell even knows about.
So, [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Warlow managed to instantly heal when Sookie's supernova touched his skin, even though Niall had mentioned earlier in the series that it would kill any vampire on physical contact. The burn was felt by Bill as well because of Warlow's connection with Lilith's blood.
This was actually the best episode so far (still shit though, imo). I also like that Warlow has a little depth to him than just being the 'I want to ear Sookie!' villain.
^Yup. And it's pretty evident that he has more faery blood on his hands(and in his stomach), than Russell could ever hope to have in his wildest dreams. That along with the confirmation that he was [SPOILER - highlight to read]: turned into vampire in 3500 BC, which makes him 5000++ years old, pretty much solidifies the idea that he's older than Russell, by a huge margin.
Only a certain someone would deny what's obvious from all of this.
When Salome awoke him and he was not at full power Sookie took him on. Eric was a threat to him at this point due to him being extremely weakened. We see later how insignificant Eric and friends are against him. Faerie Elder knew the others stood no chance. Only chance she stood was a bfr which he avoided twice.
No, Russell is not Warlow. Warlow genuinely cares about his bloodline and Sookie's well being unlike Russell. Russell isn't going to care about anything other than draining her. That makes him more dangerous. He's a psychopath whereas Warlow just has impulse control. She dies to Russell because he won't allow her a situation to make the supernova ball anyway like Warlow.
Russell was weakened. When have faerie blasts ever killed a vampire ? Wtf are you even talking about ? Draining Warlow's blood would kill him which Russell can do. Warlow doesn't have the weaknesses in general but he also lacks Russell's ruthlessness as well. One on one Russell eats him.
She was courageous and Didnt want the others to get killed. She calmly talked about Warlow but freaked out at the mention of Russell's name. Watch the scenes again, noob.
Eric never defeated a Fae in a fair fight he just drained her before she knew what happened. Russell raped the Elder despite her getting off two attacks. Russell was being attacked and was easily shrugging off their combined attacks and we see in this moment of glory he lowered his defenses for a moment to be taken off guard. This is explained by the True Blood people. They said Russell was that powerful that no one on the show basically was even a threat outside letting his guard down. He's that powerful and ruthless.
Irony.
Warlow has Fae blood in him so ironic you say Russell can't gorge on Fae blood despite Warlow doing to the same to his own family who Didnt view him as a threat. Do you even listen to yourself ? Russell tanked blasts easily where we have never seen Warlow do the same. Ever.
Eric staked him. Do you even watch the show ? Your ignorance disgusts me. Sookie blasted a weaker Russell. Context, kiddo. Yes, he was caught off guard. Bilith was in combat mode. Difference.
She died before she reached Russell's age. Bilith has other abilities but obviously lacked Russell's speed and power. She is the original which means something but due to speed and power her age never matched up with Russell's and neither do Bilith's peer comparisons at this point.
Russell beat the Faerie Elder despite the Fae blood. We know Warlow was beaten though. False. Warlow shoots a blast as it is in character and Russell eats him. In character.
Not after he bites into that Fae blood. Game over. Fae are vampire prey. Sorry, Russell's feats are far more impressive and fighting in character shows he eats him.
Guess what Warlow has ? Fae blood. I guess when Warlow eats Fae it doesn't count as an amp only for Russell. Prove it. You don't comprehend anything and I can't wait to dissect your buffoonish we were right post.
You were flat out wrong but not intelligent enough to understand what you watch.
That was full power and we see the makers of the show even say he's this powerful that their lasts don't effect him.
Hyperbole just like Sentry has power of a thousand suns or Odin is omnipotent.
He also lost to a far weaker Fae than Russell did. He doesn't have the weaknesses but still is a vampires prey as well. When we toss in the fight in character stuff he blasts and Russell eats him. That's what both characters do in character.
Russell eats him. He doesn't need weakness exploitation to eat a character who blasts in character and has been beaten by far less than Russell.
Russell is the most powerful vampire on the show in one on one combat as of yet. We argue in character, sport.
I will give you one chance to admit you both were wrong until I destroy you and expose you as being flat out incorrect. I can and will prove it as well.
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