I think the reason people will find Warlow vs Bill a low showing for Warlow is simple. With such an enormous age difference people will find anything less of Warlow one shotting him a weak showing. That and the Niall thing didn't help.
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Wrong. He told everyone off while talking to Roman. He also defied Salome and did not take her seriously at all. When something got in the way of his desires he took action.
The only way he could win is by surprise. If Russell's guard was up and he was free by himself he'd rape Eric.
Unlike Link against Ganondorf Eric can't beat Russell in a fair fight.
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Killer has edited the True Blood entries for Warlow and is spreading the propaganda. Lucky for me I know better and actually saw and understood the show than to fall for his agenda.
"Can you talk about the threat of the mutated Hep-V?
Buckner: That's the work of next season. Specifically, viruses do mutate and that's part of why we gave ourselves a six-month time passage. This is a disease that, as Dr. Overlark (John Fleck) explained when he was injecting Nora (Lucy Griffiths), can be spread in any number of ways. It has spread around the world very rapidly. Bon Temps is a microcosm of what's happening out there in the world. The vampires who are infected, their appetite for human blood is increasing. They need to feed more often in order to survive this disease."
That and Bill's redemption seem to be the main plots, along with Alcide shipping?
As said, that was a great teaser followed by meh for the most part. I wanted the King, not the angry worker bee.
That or overloading. I get he needed other means to defeat him, doesnt mean they couldn't have done more than "I finally have daywalking, now to attack those Fa- *stab*" I'm not even asking for a 30 min nonstop 300 action style war against him.. just like 5 mins.
I would prefer it if we didn't get into a Ganondorf vs Russell argument here. Its not the place, thankus.
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We got the King for a grand total of 15 mins. And because unlike Maryann needing literally a single way for them to beat her, Russell could have shown us him dominating people before being capped, even if the death came from being too high to resist like what actually happened. All I'm saying is that with the greatest antagonist in True Blood, the only villain to come back, the oldest vampire with that past with Eric and all that impact, that when he achieves the Fae boost that he gets at least a few minutes to reign and dominate some vamps.. something that reflected on the unstoppable vampire he was alluded to be at this point.
Take it up in the other thread if it matters so much,
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So says the worst troll on at least 3 different forums.
Russell tried to run away when they were standing in the sun, but still got caught. Eric outsped him in that instaance. Eric put a stake in his chest when the faery-high Russell was fighting the Hot Wings Fae. Eric owned him again. Warlow was also tied up when Eric owned him. Russell wasn't. Russell's showings are worse by and far.
Wrong. Bill tackled him to the ground, but immediately after Warlow overpowered him and threw him into a pole. Bill used that same pole to knock a speeding Warlow into the statue to give others the time to escape. The impalement had no effect on Warlow. Bill was a nuisance in that instance whom Warlow kicked off like a dog.
Warlow wasn't inconvenienced by Bill. Warlow overpowered him and kicked him like a dog. Russell wasn't distracted by other people taking away Talbot when he owned Bill. Warlow was with Sookie. Context needs to be mentioned.
Yeah, and that dimension is what held him in check for 20 years. Attempt to apply some rational thought for once in your life. I know it's hard, being who and what you are, but trying can't hurt.
Warlow kicks him off like a mongrel and then zap-KO's him. That's all it takes.
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The thing is he did one-shot him. Bill didn't care about his own life which is why he kept coming for more. Warlow wasn't really affected by him in the slightest, nor was he interested in killing anyone in that episode, not even the vampires(Violet and Bill). He just wanted Sookie, and everyone who tried to protect her was getting owned until Niall came back.
Honestly speaking, only Niall is a possible low showing from that episode, and even that can be explained by a number of reasons ranging from a V-high to the dimensional portal's energy compromising Warlow.
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iyo but that is not how they shoot true blood. For him to come back and own the vampires of the Authority after he staked Roman the most politically powerful vampire on the planet speaks volumes because he was the ONLY one POWERFUL enough. That alone says it all.
He doesn't need Fae blood and it is not an amp in any way other than allowing him to walk in the sun.
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You lack guts. That's sad.
Russell was caught off guard and weakness exploitation came into play. Bill a much younger vampire impaled Warlow. Russell did not use his speed unlike Warlow who was blitz crushed by Bill and his tree stump.
The impalement didn't due to it being on the other side of his chest. Awful showing to get rocked by a vampire soooooooo much younger than him.
Bill was kicked off due to the fact Warlow was in a position to do so. He flew away and Bill still caught up to him and almost staked him after Andy shot him.
Bill attacked Russell in his mansion and one shoulder toss owned Bill. Russell owns Bill in both instances of Bill trying to fight him unlike Warlow. Warlow had Sookie easily taken from him by a few vampires well under 1,000 and some hicks.
Being trapped in the dimension did so but both characters broke free.
Russell slaps his head off, drains him, or stakes him. Warlow just blasts because when he physically fights he's awful and was overpowered by Niall.
What happens on the show is evidence not your True Blood Wikipedia self says.
Russell is the greatest and most formidable villain on True Blood. Feats, portrayal, etc. all support this.
Wrong. Russell saw Eric burning and tried to make a run for it. Eric still caught him. Warlow was rushing towards Sookie and the others, not Bill. He wasn't actively trying to avoid Bill like Russell did with Eric. After they were transported back to the earth realm, Warlow demonstrated his superior speed by reaching the Stackhouse manor well before Bill. Eric straight up outsped Russell.
The impalement was ineffective. That's all there is to it.
Bill was kicked off because Warlow was stronger. Much stronger. Bill got lucky that the main thing on Warlow's mind at that point was retrieving Sookie. Wrong, Russell is the guy who can't hear two vampires talking secretively a few feet away. Russell is the guy who gets tricked, silvered and humiliated by younger vampires. Even Sookie owned Russell. Russell's lowest showings are more pathetic than Warlow's low showings. Wrong again, as Violet is over 800 years old. That's close enough to 1000 years.
That just goes to prove the dimension is one of the few things capable of holding him. V-high Niall was engulfed by the portal's energy.
Based on nothing whatsoever. Warlow is older. As long as he's not chained up by faerie bondage, Warlow dominates younger vampires. One kick, one zap-KO and the fight is over.
I disagree that Russell is the most formidable villain ever on the series. That title is a toss-up between Maryann and Lilith, although personally I think the maenad was the most powerful creature ever portrayed on the show. Warlow and Russell come a distant second and third respectively hierarchy.
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I don't get upset that is for the lessers such as yourself.
Eric is not faster than him but fast enough to catch him. We see Bill react to Warlow's blitz and impale him. Eric put silver cuffs on him with him reeling from the sudden realization the daywalking was very temporary.
Warlow was running as fast as he could toward Sookie. Bill used a heavy branch to hit him mid blitz. What's worse is Bill's age isn't even close to 500 years. Awful showing to your 5,500 overrated wimp, Warlow. On your own site you see everyone mock Warlow and the hype he never deserved. I was right as always.
The impalement was effective as it bought the time for Sookie's escape. It was not fatal. Try to actually understand what words like effective actually mean.
Bill was kicked off due to his vulnerable position at his feet. Warlow is stronger. The kick really did no real damage.
Russell is the guy who physically owned a very old vampire and verbally owned a room full of a 2,000, 1,100, etc. year old vampires at the same time. Just Bill engaging Warlow was enough to keep him busy while impaling him. Russell is the guy who survived past his season. The guy with far greater showings. The guy Sookie needed backup to deal with after coming at him herself initially. Russell is the guy who was not overpowered by a Faerie strength wise. Russell was not ever in a position to be impaled by such a younger vampire by comparison in Bill. Russell was a guy who was the season antagonist from the start of his season to the finish. Warlow is a guy who was tied to a tree for multiple episodes while being humiliated by Bill, Eric, etc. your showings lack the context. Russell was not at full power when Sookie blasted him nor did it defeat a weakened Russell. Comparing the huge disappointment to the epic character Russell is something only a fanboy would dare to even dream up.
The dimension did not hold him Niall did. You have not proven he was amped off of V blood days later. You have no evidence. You never do. You claimed Sookie used the super nova blast after I quoted the actual description of the attack. You live in your own world and are an H1 debater.
Feats and showings matter. Bill killed the much older Nan. Jessica lost to Tara. There goes your horrible theory. Russell has far greater strength and speed than Bill who would have staked him. Warlow never even hurt Bill significantly in a fight with his vampire strength. Warlow ko'd him with his Fae magic due to the fact Bill was helpless since he could not enter the home. Russell looked far superior against Bill than Warlow ever did. Showings matter not your easily disproven theories.
Basically, nothing matters as your entire case is older vampire beats younger one which has already been disproven. Warlow's actual showings have people mocking him and by extension you.
Wrong again. Maryann faced off against Bill with no knowledge of her. That's why the Maenad was impressive since not many knew anything about her. Bill was still faster and stronger than her at his young age. He made the mistake of biting her.
Getting the better of Bill due to ignorance and Bon Temps is not that impressive compared to Russelll who has dominated a room full of vampires, an entire tribe of Fae, an entire pack of Weres, and destroying the Elder Faerie who was turbo charged.
Lilith was basically a prophet or a ghost but on her own besides starting the vampires was no Russell. We never see enough of her to see her as a true villain since it was basically always just Bilith on the show.
Russell hands down.
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You're getting more and more quippy with each post. Relax. Calm down.
Eric outsped a fleeing Russell. Eric had also been standing longer in the sun than Russell had. Russell couldn't even escape a severely weakened Eric. Warlow was rushing at Sookie with top speed. Bill used his own momentum against him to send him crashing into the the statue. The impalement was ineffective as it barely slowed him down. He still got to the Stackhouse manor despite Bill's efforts to distract him away. Bill was kicked off because he was clutching the legs of a superior vampire.
Niall's whole body was engulfed by the energy being radiated from that portal. It held Warlow in check for 20 years. Do the math, even though it's your weakest subject.
Bill/Nan had context. Tara/Jessica was a lone anomaly. You have only 2 instances, one of which doesn't even prove the younger vamp can always win against the older one. Compared to at least dozen other showings on the show in which the older vamp dominates the younger ones. Eric and the male genpop. Violet and the female genpop. Elijah Stormer and Pam. Roman and Alexander Drew. Etc.
Lol at you claiming that older vs younger has been disproven.
Bill couldn't kill her because of her Maenad nature. She was the only creature on the show who had evolved past the true death, and a series of convoluted plot-based events were required to make her vulnerable. She was downright the most formidable villain ever showcased on True Blood. I've already provided proof of Lilith's superiority over both Warlow and Russell in the previous posts. I am not going to repeat the points. Lilith was also immune to staking and had telekinetic and precognitive powers. Maryann and Lilith were downright the most formidable supernaturals ever portrayed on the series.
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You live in your own fantasy world.
He used the silver weakness to take advantage of Russell. The older you are the quicker you burn by the way. Weakness exploitation in that situation was the only reason he could do so. We see Russell face him after he staked Roman. He toyed with him unlike Warlow with Bill.
Bill was able to hit him with that despite Warlow's speed. Horrible showing for Warlow. Russell was caught off guard via weakness exploitation after he realized it was temporary.
Bill was in a vulnerable position against a vampire over 5,000 years his senior. Despite the kick Bill was unharmed and sped off after him. Bill injured him more in a fight with strength against strength.
The dimension held him inside of it still while his arm strength held Warlow in place. Warlow needed help to escape the dimension not to hold back Warlow. Horrific showing. Warlow is being mocked all over the TB forum and it is hysterical. You're biased and exposed on a site you said I wouldn't last on. So much fun to see others mock your Warlow.
Yes, we see with one move Bill stake her. Jessica lost. There goes your whole older always wins so in the end you never had anything. If Bill himself can impale and almost stake Warlow then Russell crushes him. Russell showed superior speed to move around Bill with ease unlike Warlow.
You don't have to kill someone to beat them. Bill bit her due to being completely ignorant about her. Once he was informed about her true nature she ended up dead.
Bill was stronger and faster than she is. No bite meets he tears her up. That's just Bill the Warlow inflicter of pain and humiliation.
Maryann dominated a town of humans and a Were. She never dominated a really powerful vampire either. We don't even see her dominate someone like Eric. Her blood poisoned Bill's so it is as relevant as Hep V being the result of feeding on someone. Marnie was actually more formidable than Maryann but neither hold a candle to Russell.
Lilith died a long time ago. That was Bilith not Lilith. Different characters, broski. Bilith also was staked by just Eric and Sookie but neither here nor there.
Russell is the greatest and most formidable villain or character yet.
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He outsped him before that. Russell was trying to flee, yet still Eric caught him and prevented him from leaving. Warlow had to be restrained by magical chains for Eric to stand a chance. Russell also visibly struggled to overpower the 500 year old Roman before staking him. At least Warlow never had a difficulty in overwhelming Bill unlike Russell did with Roman.
Bill used a speeding Warlow's momentum against him from a convenient position. Bill got kicked off because he clung to Warlow's legs. He didn't even try to tackle him again and only clung to Warlow's lower body. Warlow easily threw off the younger and inferior vampire.
The portal's energy was emanating all over Niall's body including his arms. That dimension contained Warlow for 20 years. 2+2=fish in the failworld of quanlogic.
Lol, still sticking to the lone Jessica/Tara incidence. Season 6 revalidated the older vs younger trope in the Vamp Camp with Violet and Eric dominating the genpops. I understand true blood lore and how it works, unlike you who only goes off on fanboy rants.
Yeah, and Bill lost the moment he bit her. Vampires usually move to drain their victims. Maryann had evolved beyond the True Death at that point in the series and as mentioned before, a convoluted series of events were required to render her vulnerable for the Bon Temps residents to kill her. Lilith was the most powerful and versatile vampire ever shown on the series. Superstrength, superspeed, telekinesis, precognition, invincible to staking etc. Lol, Eric didn't stake Bilith. Sookie did so when his back was turned. It had no effect on him. How many times are you going to lie and lowball using this faux low showing?
That title rightfully belongs to either Maryann or Lilith.