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Originally posted by Raoul
prove it.

1. Logan is nearly impossible to kill
2. Scott's blasts cant tear through adimantium
3. Kitty = Phase Kurt = teleport Wolverine = domination Xavier = (not a chance wuld either attack the other but if they did total mind fry) Collosus = eeeeeh maybe ... i'd say that he might beat Rogue = One touch and he's in a coma. And she has pretty much all the powers inside her Beast = wellllll Scott could probably kill beast to its in the brains instead of the fight that beast dominates Jubilee - Jubilee's a litle ***** i'll give scotty that one

but as i just demonstrated over half the X-Men could kick his ass. Kitty could just sit there drinking a pepsi and phase the whole time. Kurt would teleport all over the place either making him dizzy or kurt uses the objects around him (water tower he he he)

Jean grey is a level ****ing 5 mutant no way can he kill her (as we've seen)
Emma will kick his ass (as we know)
he might loose to ice man but ice man is an omega level mutant. If he unleashed his full strength Scott wuld be an ice cube in seconds.

I think its pretty obvious guys -- i no that scott is a fan favorite and all but against alot of his teamates (useless ones like Jubilee and Beast excepted) he loses.

I will give him props for his leadership and all towards the end but at the beginning and middle he was clueless -- and leading his team down hill with him and logan fighting over jean. With those two fighting over jean, jean frustrated, the pheonix, wolverine's weapon X problems, Scott's confusion, and Magneto, and the Brotherhood everything was just crazy. Scott sucked at the beginning but everyone began to respect him after the rough times because he'd pulled them through -- so yay for that but we're not talking about leadership right here now is the time to talk about him vs others. And things aren't lookin too good for him right now sad


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Originally posted by Nighty101
1. Logan is nearly impossible to kill
2. Scott's blasts cant tear through adimantium
3. Kitty = Phase Kurt = teleport Wolverine = domination Xavier = (not a chance wuld either attack the other but if they did total mind fry) Collosus = eeeeeh maybe ... i'd say that he might beat Rogue = One touch and he's in a coma. And she has pretty much all the powers inside her Beast = wellllll Scott could probably kill beast to its in the brains instead of the fight that beast dominates Jubilee - Jubilee's a litle ***** i'll give scotty that one

but as i just demonstrated over half the X-Men could kick his ass. Kitty could just sit there drinking a pepsi and phase the whole time. Kurt would teleport all over the place either making him dizzy or kurt uses the objects around him (water tower he he he)

Jean grey is a level ****ing 5 mutant no way can he kill her (as we've seen)
Emma will kick his ass (as we know)
he might loose to ice man but ice man is an omega level mutant. If he unleashed his full strength Scott wuld be an ice cube in seconds.

I think its pretty obvious guys -- i no that scott is a fan favorite and all but against alot of his teamates (useless ones like Jubilee and Beast excepted) he loses.

I will give him props for his leadership and all towards the end but at the beginning and middle he was clueless -- and leading his team down hill with him and logan fighting over jean. With those two fighting over jean, jean frustrated, the pheonix, wolverine's weapon X problems, Scott's confusion, and Magneto, and the Brotherhood everything was just crazy. Scott sucked at the beginning but everyone began to respect him after the rough times because he'd pulled them through -- so yay for that but we're not talking about leadership right here now is the time to talk about him vs others. And things aren't lookin too good for him right now sad


I see it now Nighty. You have no idea what you're talking about. You don't read comics at all. All you do is watch the cartoons and movies and guage your opinons off of that and come here debating those feats and stuff. You have yet to cite any comic sources to back your claims or anything frankly because you never read them or at least took the time to look up whats going on. You hate Cyclops because you don't understand him. You don't know anything about him, all you know is what you see on tv. All you do is cite movies and cartoons. News Flash Nighty! This is the Comic Book Forum. Everything you say here means nothing and has no credibility to it. Please talk about X-Men in the movie forum. You'll make more sense there. Also there are no level number mutants in the comic world.


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Originally posted by Nighty101
1. Logan is nearly impossible to kill
2. Scott's blasts cant tear through adimantium
3. Kitty = Phase Kurt = teleport Wolverine = domination Xavier = (not a chance wuld either attack the other but if they did total mind fry) Collosus = eeeeeh maybe ... i'd say that he might beat Rogue = One touch and he's in a coma. And she has pretty much all the powers inside her Beast = wellllll Scott could probably kill beast to its in the brains instead of the fight that beast dominates Jubilee - Jubilee's a litle ***** i'll give scotty that one

but as i just demonstrated over half the X-Men could kick his ass. Kitty could just sit there drinking a pepsi and phase the whole time. Kurt would teleport all over the place either making him dizzy or kurt uses the objects around him (water tower he he he)

Jean grey is a level ****ing 5 mutant no way can he kill her (as we've seen)
Emma will kick his ass (as we know)
he might loose to ice man but ice man is an omega level mutant. If he unleashed his full strength Scott wuld be an ice cube in seconds.

I think its pretty obvious guys -- i no that scott is a fan favorite and all but against alot of his teamates (useless ones like Jubilee and Beast excepted) he loses.

I will give him props for his leadership and all towards the end but at the beginning and middle he was clueless -- and leading his team down hill with him and logan fighting over jean. With those two fighting over jean, jean frustrated, the pheonix, wolverine's weapon X problems, Scott's confusion, and Magneto, and the Brotherhood everything was just crazy. Scott sucked at the beginning but everyone began to respect him after the rough times because he'd pulled them through -- so yay for that but we're not talking about leadership right here now is the time to talk about him vs others. And things aren't lookin too good for him right now sad


wow. and i thought i'd seen all the irrational cyclops hate one could see in a lifetime.

you surprised me. kudos.

also, lulz @ scott being a fan favourite. i chuckled at that one.

read some comics. it helps.


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sorry to burst yours but Apocalypse had a large portion of the power of the Twelve at time (and he still blew it)

[QUOTE]Yeah Nightcrawler ... I can see it now
Kurt: Catch me if you can!
*ports all over lawn*
Cyclops: Get back here you D*** elf!!!!!
*Shoot lasers and burns plant*
Kurt: Neener neener NEEEEEEEEEner!!!!!

lmao

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that would be funny if Cyclops hadnt tagged him more than once already.

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1. Logan is nearly impossible to kill
2. Scott's blasts cant tear through adimantium
3. Kitty = Phase Kurt = teleport Wolverine = domination Xavier = (not a chance wuld either attack the other but if they did total mind fry) Collosus = eeeeeh maybe ... i'd say that he might beat Rogue = One touch and he's in a coma. And she has pretty much all the powers inside her Beast = wellllll Scott could probably kill beast to its in the brains instead of the fight that beast dominates Jubilee - Jubilee's a litle ***** i'll give scotty that one

but as i just demonstrated over half the X-Men could kick his ass. Kitty could just sit there drinking a pepsi and phase the whole time. Kurt would teleport all over the place either making him dizzy or kurt uses the objects around him (water tower he he he)
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go read the Cyclops respect thread and try again. Cyclops completly pwnd the X-Men over and over.


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sorry to burst yours but Apocalypse had a large portion of the power of the Twelve at time

No. That wasn't until after he accidentally became merged with Scott from what I recall. Either way, that instance in The Twelve saga wasn't the only time Apocalypse shrugged off one of Cyclops's optic blasts, as shown in the other links I posted. He's more than durable enough to take 'em.

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(and he still blew it)

That wasn't the point. Point is that Scott's optic blasts can't hurt Poccy, except when his power is amped by Phoenix's, like that instance with them on the moon, but it doesn't count since the topic is what Cyclops can't get off his lawn. stick out tongue


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Speaking of apocalypse...anyone else wish they went with their cool idea of Apocalypse being the third Summers brother? That would've been awesome!!!


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Agreed. Although it might've been weird at first, it would've made sense kinda through some explanation. Wish I knew why the idea was ditched. erm


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Agreed. Although it might've been weird at first, it would've made sense kinda through some explanation. Wish I knew why the idea was ditched. erm


Well I was being sarcastic because that was a horrible idea imo. APocalypse is way older than Corsair himself. The only logical thing I could think of is that he fathered him, Apocalypse somehow got sent to the past and everyone believed him to be the first mutant when he actually wasn't seeing as he was originally born way later.


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Well I was being sarcastic because that was a horrible idea imo. APocalypse is way older than Corsair himself. The only logical thing I could think of is that he fathered him, Apocalypse somehow got sent to the past and everyone believed him to be the first mutant when he actually wasn't seeing as he was originally born way later.

I didn't think the idea was good per se, but part of me still wanted it to happen just to see how Marvel would make it play out. laughing out loud Just a curiousity thing I suppose.

Anyhow, yeah. That's basically what I was thinkin' as to how it would happen ^^ stick out tongue, but meh. Probably best that it didn't, as I can't see it occurring any other way either..


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I'm just glad it's not gambit...


You should be proud if they were brothers. Maybe some of that southern charm would rub off of him and people like Nighty would like him.


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You should be proud if they were brothers. Maybe some of that southern charm would rub off of him and people like Nighty would like him.



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i dont feel like requoting it.
in the Twelve before Apocalypse entered/merged with Cyclops,
he had already absorbed a large part of the power of the Twelve.

Cyclops's blast can force through a mountain, in fact he blasted Colossus through the air and through one.

Apocalypse got knocked back and down by a TK reinforced punch from Stryfe. To believe that a full blast from Scott wont send Apocalypse flying is either silly or having him confused with Juggernauht.


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Normally that would provide a valid argument, but Apocalypse was weakened during his encounter with Stryfe (he was still recovering in his Lazarus Chamber when Stryfe confronted him and stabbed him from behind or somethin'. The dying Apocalypse was lucky to have escaped at all before Stryfe was about to finish him off). The result would not have been the same however if Poccy was at full strength.

Also, from X-Force #14. stick out tongue

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Unless Cyclops's power is amped by Phoenix's, or if Apocalypse is in a weakened state like with Stryfe, Cyclops will not be able to blast him off his lawn.
And no, I'm not saying Apoc has Juggernaut durability, but he's still tough enough to take Scott's blasts without any PIS factors involved.


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Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Speaking of apocalypse...anyone else wish they went with their cool idea of Apocalypse being the third Summers brother? That would've been awesome!!!


hmm that would've been cool --
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*Xavier holds camera*
Xavier: Family photo say cheese!
*Scott looks at photo of two skeletons, him, apocalypse, and Havoc.*
Scott: Ha ha and I thought NIGHTCRAWLER'S family was bad....
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lmao no but seriously that would be cool to have apocalypse as a summers bro. I mean Im not the biggest fan of Scott (ok so i think he is a total dork all in all) but that would be awesome!! Really good plot twist! And actually I've just been sitting around writing (yes i write but not anything thats published just my own little short stories i make for my friends and i) and he's starting to grow on me. I think he's at about jubilee level now on my favorites list. Hes pretty far down there but growing on me a tad. But nighty still tops it for me big grin


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Normally that would provide a valid argument, but Apocalypse was weakened during his encounter with Stryfe (he was still recovering in his Lazarus Chamber when Stryfe confronted him and stabbed him from behind or somethin'. The dying Apocalypse was lucky to have escaped at all before Stryfe was about to finish him off). The result would not have been the same however if Poccy was at full strength.

Also, from X-Force #14. stick out tongue

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Unless Cyclops's power is amped by Phoenix's, or if Apocalypse is in a weakened state like with Stryfe, Cyclops will not be able to blast him off his lawn.
And no, I'm not saying Apoc has Juggernaut durability, but he's still tough enough to take Scott's blasts without any PIS factors involved.


so because he was weakened, that effected his attachment to gravity?
k.


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