Yes I watched it Monday night. I flipped back and forth on the countdown hour before but I'm pretty damn sure I caught every moment of the 1st and 2nd episodes of this season. Why would anything I'd said have it appear otherwise?
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Yea, hiro's powers was one of the few abilities hes learned.. at least in season 1
and sylar did mention getting it from candace, he told peter in 5 years gone
and as for going back in time to get lindermans powers? idk..
its possible, but my theory is, he received the power earlier. Like you said, "linderman was a friend of the patrelli's" and "co-worker" if you will
either that or he met someone with the same power.
at least we know how he got those "dreams". from his mother
I'm sure the whole peter/matt thing will be explained. Since Nathan knows the truth
I think Peter had to have time traveled to before Linderman died. If Linderman met Peter at age 10, that doesn't mean that Peter absorbed his ability then because his ability didn't manifest until Season 1.
And for the teleporting someone else, I agree that it's Hiro's power perfected.
The shape-shifting and the transferring someone to someone else's body, I think time will tell on where he got that power. After all, that's how Season 2 kicked off, with Peter having this mysterious new electricity power. Then we found out later he got it from Elle.
What I'm wondering, it's probably a plot-hole, is how when Peter first discovered his power, he would exert it by no will of his own (i.e. when he met Claude, he turned invisible automatically). But now we found out that Angela has the power to dream the future. Why hasn't Peter accidently done this yet?
Peter's been dreaming the future since the very first episode. Angela even says in the last episode, "Where do you think you got your first power?" I had originally thought it was her's all along but the this with the end of season 1 and Simone's father shook me up on it. So I was right after all about her power being clairvoyant visions. But Peter also has Simone's fathers weird dream/time displacement power as well. I think its the same as that kid Mohinder met that took him to the past to witness his parents conversation about Shanti.
Think about it that kid was the only one that was aware of him in the dream just as Simone's father was the only one aware of Peter in his!
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Peter first power, before his very own power, was to dream timed events (be them past, present or future) more specially future events, and clearly got that from Angela (she even told that to Peter this season)
I might be missing something, but what is this about Peter having Linderman's power?, I haven't seen him used that power on the show, ever.
he didn't heal Nathan, at least he didn't do it on purpose, since he wanted Nathan dead... at least until he's sure he's not going to tell anybody about their powers, which was what Peter came to stop
Linderman is dead... it seems, since the only one able to see him is Nathan...
though there will a scene in which Linderman [SPOILER - highlight to read]: talks or interacts with Daphne so the whole truth about Linderman hasn't been revealed yet
btw: I like having McDowell back in the show....
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Well, it looked like peter did something to nathan to bring him back from the dead. Wasn't it his whole intent to bring him back after he was done 'killing' him?
He told Nathan that he wants him to make the right choices so he can be the hero he looks up to, so im sure Peter knew he could bring him back, he doesn't want to kill his brother.
So i'm thinking peter did something that brought nathan back...
No he didn't, he had every intention of stopping Nathan, and that meant killing him, that's why he came back to retrieve the stashed gun, and waited to shoot him in the chappel if it was necessary... what changed was Nathan's mind, and once Peter realized he wasn't going to talk, he told him the truth and told him to "make the right choices so he can be the hero he looks up to"... we don't know what happened to Nathan in the future, he just wind up somewhere different, and now Future Peter changed that.
whether he healed/revived Nathan, I don't know, but he didn't do it on purpose.
Why would he bring him back just to try and shoot him again?
It's a possible explanation, but Peter didn't know or intended to "heal him"... if it was him who did it
... and by the way, the future can be changed... unlike what was thought last season
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I don't think Future Peter brought Nathan back from the dead. It has something to do with the Linderman's ghost; Nathan came back from the dead and miraculously healed and then begins seeing the man with the healing power... hmm...
As for Sylar having the power of Illusions... Tim Kring has stated that Sylar was unable to obtain it in Season 2. The future in Five Years Gone has been removed and replaced with something else, so it is likely that Sylar no longer has it.
And I'm sure Future Peter has tons of powers that aren't even used, simply because he interacts with everyone. I'm sure there are some he isn't even aware he has.
I still say it's all Peter's doing. I'm telling you, future Peter is up to something other than the simple explanation we've been given. I'm not saying its exactly good or bad but I guarantee you there's more to it than he's letting on. Peter didn't let Nathan die because it was never his intention to kill him. He even said it his self he just had to stop him from ruining things. And perhaps not only by stopping this whole thing with Nathan telling everyone but perhaps Peter has decided that Nathan needs something to help guide his morality more on the right course. Like religion perhaps? I mean we already know Nathan isn't exactly incorruptible so what if it wasn't just the telling everyone about them he needed to change but also helping to ensure Nathan made some other less than noble choices along the way. After all he is already right back on the road to the white house again!
But another thought that's crossed my mind is Arthur Petrelli! I seem to remember someone saying last season something about Arthur possibly having the ability to take over someones body when Nathan was seeing those scarred visions of himself in the mirror. Now we all know now that that wasn't the case but its interesting to me that Peter now seems to have this new ability to put people in other peoples bodies as he's done with his present self.
Now I'm not really a fan of everyone in the 12 or even the show for that matter having powers. If everyone starts to have them it loses allot of the realism aspect to me. I much prefer the idea of just the random most highly evolved ending up with them. Still, I just can't help but wonder if by some amazing coincidence that Arthur did actually just happen to have that ability and what if that's what was actually going on with Future Peter all along and why he's been so strange and had to get rid of Parkman.
Another thing I can't help but wonder is if Matt is even really in Africa at all? I mean he does have the ability to trap others in their minds as his father had done to people and Matt had done to him. So that means Peter definitely has that too and 4 extra years to develop it to higher levels than Matt. I think it'd be funny to just find out that Matt had been in that closet or somewhere like Peter's apartment all along.
Another thing! Since Future and Present Peter have came within such close proximity to each other does that mean that he now has all of his future self's abilities as well? I just wonder if he'd even be able to replicated his own replicated abilities. I mean we know he can replicate Sylar's stolen abilities but Sylar is forcing his body to do that to itself where as Peter's just does it instinctively.
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I seriously hope Arthur doesn't/didn't have powers....
but we'll be seeing him this season
I still think Peter wanted to kill... better said, needed to kill Nathan in order to stop him, why else was he willing to shot him again when he regained conscious?...
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I think future peters intent was to kill nathan, i dont think peter did anything to bring him back...i find the blood transfusion from last season to be the best bet....so could that mean that HRG can regenerate? an imortals blood cured nathan pretty fast and i still see that as the bestr bet...but its only my opinon...we will see where it goes
I think that with some characters having the same powers and considering its future peter...they dont really need to explain his new abilities like illusion or Body transfering(and how do they explain peters body within another, his mind or essence i can understand...but his actual body i dont know)...it would be nice...but i dont think its that important
if you read the mini arc in the graphic novel "War Buddies", you it could be possible that his power has to do with affecting probability, if he has one ("Dallas" always seemed to win at cards)
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