Gender: Male Location: Planning to take over the WORLD!
no worries--i'd intended for it to count.
so, let's start with this:
we're not making anything up. you'd be quite right in your assessment IF dhii WAS the "intended user".
he most certainly is NOT.
he usurped the wills of the children. that muddies EVERYTHING that follows. your refutation is misleading and answers a completely different question and scenario. we can't be 'making things up' when what you've done is unique, my friend, and as such, subject to all the questions and doubts we raised.
as for the rest:
heh.
someone's getting desperate . . .
first, let's look at his, ahem, "HIGH HERALD LEVEL OFFENSE":
(1) lightning: we are so darn big, that even if he DID call it and hit us, it would damage such a truly MINISCULE part of our whole that we would scarcely notice. beyond that, we can create our OWN lightning by transforming into a BATTERY, complete with acid, copper and zinc. i've never seen batman bake an apple pie, but i'm pretty sure he could . . . lastly--ULTIMO is IMMUNE to lightning attacks. (scoob has the scan to show this)
note too that digi glossed over a couple points as relates to the lightning--asketh leo: "digimark, has mary or freddy ever called the lightning for offense?"
his reply? still forthcoming . . .
he also mentioned something about lightning the width of a mountain. asketh leo: "digimark, have you proof of this mountain-wide lightning?"
his reply? still forthcoming . . .
(2) his "high herald level" whirlwind: heh
first, WE ARE AS FAST AS HE IS. we could EASILY simply counteract the whirlwind, as i've said 10 times. also, speedsters tend not to be affected by them anyways! wouldn't do to get dizzy WHILE PRODUCING a whirlwind. likely has to do with hyper-speed perceptions . . . another point i meant to raise earlier--digi said the earlier scan i showed of shift BEING "whirlwinded" was self-regulated, or something . . . that scan showed a speedster whirlwinding him. it affected shift for a moment, then he was back and PO'D. that was an UNAMPED shift, who didn't have an accelerated healing factor and could NOT move at mach 10. he also wasn't KILOMETERS wide! before he even BEGAN his whirlwind, we could shift form and just swat him with a promethium fist moving at mach 10 that is the size of a building.
(3) killing cortez: as we said, his powers don't fade immediately. however, he would never REACH cortez before we do. we are each 0.5km from YOU, but NOT from each other (think of a triangle with sides ab and ac being equal, (0.5km) but side ac being much shorter (0.1km, for example)). first he would need to FIND cortez, then dig under the earth. all we need to do is grab cortez with a small part of our mass and he's safe in promethium. he has no way of killing cortez. specially since we hit him in the opening tenths of a second with our cloud form. no way he finds cortez before we reach him OR cortez.
(4) kk's "skillz": useless . . . . the only thing they would be good for is maybe trying to break a promethium sphere we hold him in. but even if he COULD break it, we'd just make a new one--IF THAT WAS THE OFFENSE WE CHOSE. in a very REAL sense, any promethium we held him in would be ALIVE. if he cracked or broke it, so? we remake it, as many times as needed. while he's repeatedly breaking out of the spheres, we bring in cortez to overload him. simple as.
(5) er . . . fly us to the sun:
at mach 10 . . . that would take a while. and, well . . . we could just, you know, fly off the piece of rock you're carrying. no offense digi m'man, but . . . .
dumbest.
attack.
ever.
(course that's pretty much all he's left with in terms of offensive options . . . )
(6) thunderclap: well, i guess you could, but . . . i have no idea how it would help you. even if you disrupted a small piece of us, the rest of us would swarm all over you! AND you'd be standing still, making an easy target. the force would be directed in front of you, part of us would come BEHIND you and you'd be finished. again, digi isn't quite getting the whole size issue here. WE ARE A KILOMETERS WIDE CLOUD, DESCENDING ON HIM AT MACH 10 FROM ALL SIDES. he's like a friggin a dust mote to us (but shift can see molecular structures, so we easily see him despite the size differences).
so, again, i'm forced to ask--what offense?
for all his 'herald power' (he's most likely 66% of cap marvel with kk's skills. surfer is hardly shaking in his boots . . .) he really has NO OFFENSE against us! nothing we can't instantly counter, flat out ignore, or simply heal from. he has absolutely NO WAY of taking ALL of our mass out.
minimal options--sigh . . . one of the drawbacks to being a brick.
meanwhile, while he's battling part of us, the REST of us comes from behind. we could become some crazy, 1000ft tall semi-liquid form with a hundred arms, all moving at mach 10!! we LITERALLY have more offensive options than i can state in these write-ups. we can become some sticky, plasticman-type slop that slows him down. he'd have to continually fight to escape while we use cortez to overload him, or infiltrate him and harden inside his body.
let's say we became a robot and wanted to go h2h. he would need to HIT us to harm us. as he tried, we'd become liquid, surround him, then turn to promethium, over and over again. or while he's encased FORCE ourselves into his body--holding your breath is great unless someone is FORCING water down your throat. or in your ears, or up your nasal cavities, or through any opening we can find. then we solidify INSIDE you and you are done. or forget solidifying--we become nanites and worm our way into his cybernetic systems.
again, he has NO OPTIONS--all have been UTTERLY refuted. we have many many options (almost all of them shown on-panel), that he continually glosses over.
for all his talk about a 'team buster' . . . so? who isn't? ultimo crushed an ARMY of ironmen! solo. we've made him even UBER-ER!
and please note--we REALLY (truly) don't care if he gets his power. though he STILL never answered the question about how he speaks both words in any coherent, wipes-out-all-doubt manner.
well, unless you somehow call THIS coherent:
heh. and he says WE'RE speculating . . . it's not lightning, period? then . . . show me something ELSE that reverts their powers. please.
he won't. he can't. it's a fact--mary and freddy must SPEAK the magic wordS. with one mouth, how does he speak both words and not lose the first power he summoned when he is struck by the second lightning bolt? anyone? judges? (I know at first glance it SEEMS a silly point, but really, i see no way around it . . .)
anyway, his offense is meaningless--seriously. in whatever form he's in. review his options and look what he's been left to attempt (fly us into the sun at mach 10! heh). we are simply too big and too versatile for him to deal with. we have many very sound offensive options that he couldn't counter. we are literally EVERYWHERE. he can't take us out. he can't avoid us. he can't run away from us.
oh, and about scramber. i showed him scrambling cable. he bypassed cable's cynetic components and DIRECTLY SCRAMBLED HIS POWER. that is exactly what his touch would do to the marvels' powers. and they only have a tiny portion of shazam's might. if he can scramble nate grey's abilities, he could scramble THEIR power--assuming dhii would even be granted the power in the first place . . .
so, to review: his brick (strength+striking power) vs our massive, enormously versatile character against whom his striking and strength are useless.
versatility+power>>power alone.
honestly, as tough as his character might be against certain foes, he just ran up against the wrong opponent this round. we're simply too much for him.
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In case anyone forgot, Digi is not arguing that his power is gained through amalgamation (as everyone else in the tourney is doing) he's claiming that Death's head can steal the Wizard Shazam's power simply by sticking a metal spike into the back of Freddy Freeman's skull.
What rings hollow is the point where you claim a soul can be pulled out with a metal spike.
Uh huh ... I actually said it was due to the forced removal of her powers, please respond to the relevant points.
It is cool, thanks.
Again (for the third or fourth time) we're using Ultimo's power core and transferring the energy through Shift's ability to become conductive materials ... I'm not in the least surprised that you haven't seen scans for this since they've never actually merged before.
You're right ... as the OMACs showed it's just a specific electrical burst .. one we can easily replicate with a huge power source and an elemental shapeshifter.
I cut out everything that isn't/wasn't relevant ... everyone already read your false assumptions at length in your own post(s), they don't need to see them again in mine.
No, they lead us to believe he can copy the information in the people's minds, nothing more.
Except for being a powerful necromancer you mean?
Seems like a big deal to me and should to anyone who knows what a necromancer is.
You're right about that, he isn't getting anything from Shazam after murdering his disciples.
You turned them off in your prep....
Fine, show me Freddy dying and using his powers two minutes later and I'll consider it. Otherwise he's plain dead and the power you had in the drafts just disappeared.
Except that she's dead = power is gone.
Yeah, let's use a scan of someone who can steal the powers of the freakin' Spectre to justify a robot's ability tro suck a soul through a metal spike.
Somehow that doesn't quite inspire me to accept your fallacies as truth.
Funny that we're using a degree of speculation to discuss events that have never happened and that will never happen.
Isn't it?
Shame he has nothing solid to hit, another strike against your low powered, non-Marvel upgraded robo-brick.
Even if you had access to Shazam's powers (which you don't ... which I think you also realise considering you re-drafted Mary Marvel, which you wouldn't need to do if you already had her power) it wouldn't work as shown in our Ultimo scans.
You have digitised copies of their minds, that's all (if that)
That's ... retarded (not trying to be offensive) the ground would break apart as soon as you started lifting (not that you have Shazam's power anyway)
Yes, Thunderclaps against the giant robot cloud that can move and change shape faster than people can think ... again - robot - no pesky human sense of balance to disrupt.
Us too ... only ours isn't completely reliant on convincing people of the implausible ability to suck a soul up through a metal spike.
As would Shazam granting power to a robot that has never accessed it before.
If by "confirmations" you mean speculation you'd be almost right. What you actually showed was a robot speaking to himself, asking if he had a soul ... hardly concrete.
Scrambler sucks ... Leo drafted him without consulting me (sorry Leo)
Luckily it turns out we don't need him as even if you could get the powers of Shazam (which you can't) you still have no way to harm a gigantic character that can change form faster than you can move or attack.
you try to punch - we're mist, you try to lift the ground, we're not above that ground (then the ground breaks up anyway making your tactic a complete waste of time)
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Not sure if you could tell from this ... but I'm fairly drunk right now.
I may have been a bit more ... unsympathetic in my responses than normal ... no offense intended (which I'm sure Digi knows ... even though he did say Leo's post was stupid in an earlier reply)
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Do you even KMC???
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Deserves an audio response. Click the link above for explanation. He's beginning to confuse even me with these incoherent responses. So I wanted to clear the air. It's only a couple minutes long, btw. I don't intend on abusing such links to say more than the 10K character limit for posts. But everything I say is very important.
Of course he isn't. Mary and Freddy are the intended users. Whose souls I have assimilated. Their host body is now Minion's. I'm not making Death's Head II's body become the Marvels. I'm making Mary and Freddy's body become the Marvels. They just happen to be the same thing now.
But we've been over that, and I've proven it all relentlessly with scans. You've shown sh*t, but have speculated like a champ. My only worry is that the judges believe you just because you keep repeating this crap. If they understand everything I've shown via irrefutable scans, you're screwed.
'cept I can do that attack for years if needed. So even if it only vaporizes a tiny fraction of you, it doesn't harm me at all and is infinitely repeatable.
I'll deal with the hilarious "immunity" later, when I dissect the scans below that they use to support it.
Beyond that, if you 2 are so intent on hitting me with lightning, or think that my lightning transformations would negate each other (debunked above in the audio response) then I'll have to continually call down the lightning anyway. So it'll be getting used as a weapon inadvertently. Woo.
Hmm. K, I'll pull back on mountain-width. Heat-of-the-moment embellishment. But still massive magical lightning of pwnage.
I showed scans of it, btw. Twice actually. The one that KO'd Superman. And that isn't a Cpt. Marvel feat...it's a Shazam-transformation-lightning feat, which is the same for all 3 of them.
Oh, and the very first time Mary called her power down, she set the house on fire that she was in, in a giant explosion. Or the Black Alice scan I showed where it creates a gargantuan explosion in the place she was at (a mall?).
You're asking for something that I've shown no less than 3 times now. Ignoring me doesn't make you right.
Yes, because promethium would hold Cpt. Marvel with KK's powers and a blade-arm that rivals adamantium in durability ( ).
Christ.
I like that you gave up on scrambling though, since it's beyond clear that you can't scramble anything about me (Minion and KK aren't "powers" and the Marvels are magical).
Did you know Minion's siphon can assimilate gas forms? I might try to find the scan before tonight for an extra-delicious pwnage.
Anyway, Cortez is dead, and nothing you do would even slow me down. Anything I want to try, I can.
Fly off the piece of rock? I'm carrying the battlefield. That would be self-BFR. Easy win for me. I decided we're fighting on the sun. So we are. If I'm flying at max tourney speeds, then you'll have to as well simply to keep up and not be BFR'd. I don't care if it takes us a decade. Matches don't have a time limit.
Like I said, if the judges believe my plan (they should) there's no way I don't win.
Thunderclap = Omni-directional. So no.
And combine Cap's strength with KK's skill (remember, he made a goddamn earthquake on his own) and you're talking about focused thunderclaps that could level mountain ranges.
A hearty "round of applause" at tourney-limit speeds as we fly around teh battlefield will blast you into incoherence.
Shift isn't an unkillable being like they need you to believe. Even a 2-minute incapacitation would count as a win for me, since dispersing him may not permanently kill him but would leave him out for easily 2 minutes.
You turned him into a harmless cloud, and claimed to be able to do a million things at once, half of which you wouldn't do in time, th other half of which wouldn't even hurt my guy, and all of which would be destroyed by my numerous attacks.
It's magic lightning from the wizard Shazam. And Shift isn't an OMAC. Could he even create the specific frequency needed to revert Mary, which I would instantly reverse by saying "Shazam" again?
See my audio response above. You're ignoring some large gaps in your own logic. Primarily, if each lightning bolt changes both Mary and Freddy, then the first bolt will grant them both their powers. For your logic to hold true, that's the easy fix. And if it doesn't hold true, and I'm right, then I can call them down separately.
Either way I get both power sets.
He still only scrambled Cable's powers. Not tech, not skills, meaning Minion and KK are safe. And if 66% (minimum) is a "tiny" portion of Skyfather+'s might, then sure. But magic is an entirely different beast, and you have zero proof to back yourself. Zero.
Nate Grey's a mutant, btw, which is the only kind of character you've shown him scrambling iirc.
If the Marvels can KO Supes with their lightning, and this lightning barely hurt an Iron man foe, are they the same strength? That would be like saying all punches are of equal strength. "Look, I survived a punch from...Scoob! I can beat Superman!"
Or should we assume that Ultimo's durability is >>>> Superman's? Lulz. Also, the immunity to this lightning was clearly due to his metal durability, which is lost as soon as you change to different chemical patterns with Shift. In other words, it means nothing. Unless you were planning on staying as Ultimo, which you clearly aren't.
And that's only 1 of my attacks. Even if the judges believe you (they shouldn't) this is something like my 4th or 5th option.
.....
Let's get all these out of the way:
He spent half his post saying the same thing. Clearly Scoob doesn't like my plan, nor does he think it would work. Fortunately, we're not fighting based on what we like/dislike, or what we think. Judges vote on what is shown through scans and logic.
4 independent feats the confirm a soul don't lie. Especially the exorcism, which would be impossible without a soul. I'll post them again in a scans-only post in a minute to group them all together one last time.
You guessed that, sure. Nothing in the scan leads us to that conclusion. Besides, KO'ing a human and KOing a nuke-surviving Minion are very different things. Unless power removal is >> town-destroying blasts in terms of force, then no.
As soon as you become a non-conductive material...say, a mist or acid ( ) you would lose the power from Ultimo's power core, since it would disperse, having nothing to control or contain it.
Heck, thanks for pointing that out again. You just showed that Ultimo is worthless.
For Mary, perhaps. Not Freddy, as I've proven ad nauseum. But then I call down her power again, and we're back to square one.
Ok, cool. Happy to see them. I figured you weren't lying, but wanted to make you guys do the legwork to produce them. Changes nothing, of course. You can't scramble me, you can't amp a person's ability to become the elements, and we're both as fast as each other...with your speed eventually wearing off after I kill Cortez early.
If that feat was the only one I was using, and wasn't corroborated by 3 others, you might have something here. As it is, you're guessing again. Wildly, this time. And even if your guess was right about this particular case, I have 3 other non-necromantic feats to prove it.
More false assumption. Listen to the audio response at the beginning of my last post. You guys are using an entirely different definition of on/off, one that makes no sense.
I didn't re-draft her. She was just the last person I dropped because I was negotiating a trade with Blair/Smurph. Paying attention to things is good.
Not if I dig deep enough. Rock is fairly cohesive, you know.
There's no flaws to my sun-flight plan, and it wtfpwns you guys.
F*ck balance! I'm talking about shockwaves that would destroy mountains, and easily keep you incapacitated for as long as I need.
I've seen Thing, Juggernaut, non-amped Hulk, etc. produce thunderclaps that would accomplish this. Hell, Minion alone + KK's skill would do as much as I need it to. Add in the marvel power and you'll be blown into incoherence after the first few claps. Then I'll keep doing it for weeks just because I can.
Again, if you believe my plan, I win easily. It's not even close.
I'm never going to let comments like this slip by.
Hear that judges? Scrambler SUCKS!
Moving on.
...which explains your post. Thanks for making this post easier than normal Scoob.
Gender: Male Location: Planning to take over the WORLD!
well, there really isn't much more to say. he actually LIKES his--fly them to the sun attack!
psst, digi--i turn to acid and burn through the rock straight at you. then i force myself into the openings of your body, become nanites and destroy you from the inside out.
and it's not like you take the WHOLE outback!
c'mon, man. and you STAND by that attack?! you're better than that . . .
i'll let the judges decide whether you get the marvels' powers or not. me, i don't care.
i DO have one little observation that i wouldn't mind having cleared up though--one of the minds in minion was czorn. czorn was kinda cool, and had a special ability. he was a specialist at cutting. in fact, he created a blade that was able to cut ANYTHING. this is him:
now, my question is this--if he actually gained all the abilities of the absorbed 'soul' as you claim, why can't minion create a blade that cuts anything? he just . . . doesn't want to? seemingly one soul can't allow him to make a simple blade, but you want him to summon magical powers from others? hmmm . . .
again, your limited offense is your downfall.
thunderclap?? so you disperse a small amount of us--we move at MACH 10!! while some of us may disperse, we solidify the rest of us. i've shown countless scans of shift being partially solid partially gas/liquid. hell, part of us could turn to acid, go underground to avoid your little clap, then infiltrate your body. or go plasticman on you. or hold you til cortez arrives and overloads you.
or, still perfectly viable (scoob's drunkeness not withstanding . . .) we scramble your magical abilities. i showed him scrambling power pack, who are regualr, super-powered humans, and mutants. you want to claim that magic is different somehow? no logical reason why it wouldn't be scrambled as soon as our cloud touched you.
i've shown 10 different ways to take him out and that's WITH marvels' powers. he seems to want you to think he somehow has a speed advanatge or something.
he does NOT. we react, move and travel at the same speeds. i showed an UNAMPED shift transmuting to dodge close range LASER FIRE!
he also wants you to think his strength is superman level. it's not. it's most likely 66% of that. everyone agrees thor is pretty damn close to superman in strength. now, ask yourself, who is about 2/3 as strong as thor? colossus? it's all about perspective. digi's brick is not as powerful as he is desperately claiming he is . . .
i like this one:
heh
a harmless, kilometers wide cloud that he cannot possibly avoid and that moves at mach 10. a cloud that if it touches him could scramble his magical powers and strength and speed. a harmless cloud that when it touches him let's us infiltrate his body, turn into nanites and kill him from the inside. none of which he can possibly avoid.
yep, pretty harmless . . .
he seems to forget to that we also have amped processing power. we'd recognize instantly if something wasn't effective and alter our chemical make-up, or parts of it to easily deal with whatever he throws at us.
as for the lightning attack--bits of lightning that wouldn't do any noticeable damage and that we have immunity to. the important part of that scan was the part digi completely glossed over--
ULTIMO EVOLVED BEYOND THAT ATTACK!! it had nothing to do with his metallic body! it had to do with his evolving beyond a lightning strike or EMP attack. THAT ability to evolve is one WE would gain as part of the amalgamation!
so yeah--your lightning gets TEH FAILZ!!
so, no lightning option (though come to think of it, i like the thought of you speaking the word, and our cloud floating down your throat into your body where we disintegrate your partially organic, fusion reactor heart and enjoy watching you explode!!.
no thunderclap option.
no . . . ahem . . . taking us to the sun. no punching us. no karate chops, no whirlwinds . . .
no . . . anything.
as i've said and pointed out repeatedly. honestly judges, review his offense and ask yourself if ANYTHING he did could do more than very briefly (we DO have an amped healing factor you know . . .) annoy us before we could react to it, or change our form to address it or heal from it. he would literally have to disperse our entire form (i showed you a friggin NUKE couldn't disperse shift ALONE!! you honestly think his thunderclap>nuclear bomb?? and in this state, shift has infinitely more mass to play with, speed and healing, AND his ability to manipulate his own structure is ALSO AMPED by cortez!)
it's worth repeating--he would need to fully disperse our kilometers wide form in one blast to take us out. i friggin nuke couldn't disperse shift himself, but he needs you to think a THUNDERCLAP could disperse our vastly amped amalgam.
once again, GRANT him his powers. (if you don't buy his plan, or think we can scramble them he's dead in an instant) i TRULY don't care. his creation is far too one-dimensional and lacks the offensive output to worry us. we've answered every one of his increasingly desperate offensive strategies. i think at this point even digi knows he's screwed.
a brick by any other name is still a brick, and versatility+power>>power alone
Savin' the best for last, kids. Good match Scoob/leo. I hate having to beat you down, but I'm sure you can handle it.
If you do that and negate the sun plan, that's why I listed 4-5 other ways of taking you out. With the Outback in chunks and pieces, it just gives me more room to operate.
Also, how will you do this if I start flying to the sun before you realize what's going on. Moving at tourney-limit speeds, you'll have to go the same speed just to stay close enough not to be BFR'd. And you won't catch me until I want you to, especially since you'll be getting slower as Cortez's amp wears off.
Why not? But meh. A large portion of it will suffice. Enough to keep me legal.
He wouldn't be saying that if he had further refutations. As it is, I've quelled them all with oodles of scans.
Covered this in the writeup, bud. Anything the mind/soul grants me, Minion gets. But nothing that is dependent on the body. Czorn's mind/soul was transferred into a body that was equivalent to his original one, which allowed him to cut stuff. It wasn't his mind that created a sharp blade, nor his soul. So that's just irrefutably wrong. Nice try though.
Cortez is dead. He's a base human who can be killed a billion different ways.
Move at Mach 10 all you want. Class Herald thunderclaps + KK's precision = omni-directional shockwaves that will send Shift into nothingness. He's not indestructible.
I, however, am close to it. STILL nothing you do would harm me or trump my durability and healing.
You've had 10 posts to show a reason for believing this. You have none. At least you wisely gave up on trying to say you'd scramble Minion/KK. Scoob himself thinks he sucks. But hell, if you did, I'd call them down again, doing damage to you. This isn't even an attack.
Do I need to post the Cpt. Atom vs. Mary fight again? Mary >>>>> Colossus. Freddy = Mary (same amount of power). Then add KK's skill, which magnifies his own base strength many thousands of times. 66% + KK >>>>> Superman. And that's worst-case scenario, if Billy is transformed at the time, thus cutting into their power.
Hell, Minion alone overpowered the Thing in strength. Is he really say an exponential power increase takes me from Thing+ to < Colossus. Epic Fail.
Not magical lightning that is >>>>> an Iron Man blast. Also it was while in Ultimo-form. Would that evolution really carry into a state that is chemically completely different than his original form? Doubtful, at best.
Honestly judges, he's saying Cpt. Marvel (with extra powers to boot) wouldn't be able to do sh*t to a character they drafted for 25 points. If your bullsh*t detector doesn't go off somewhere in there, it really, really should.
Nah, not one thunderclap. Thousands. Millions. As many as it takes to push each pocket into non-existence, or to melt him into nothingness with Minion's energy when you condense, or punch the solidified parts into the next county.
And you make a big deal of your speed, without mentioning that mine's the same.
My thoughts exactly.
Yes. Please do. Scrambler sucks and now this?! Who are you, and what have you done with my opponents?
lol, wut? As I've said before, my only concern is that the judges become confused with all the information in this match (or lack thereof, in your case). If they understand what I've shown, and believe my plan, then I win easily.
Final Points
- Not the actual finale. I have 1 more scans-only post with a few things. But these are the final arguments.
- The lone issue with Minion was whether or not he retains souls. 4 massive feats later, and they were forced to give up, except for Scoob's drunken insistence that none of them were true. They're posted again below for reference. I proved it beyond ANY doubt.
- The nonsense with musing about Shazam stripping them of their powers would be outside intervention, and thus illegal. I showed that all they need is their souls to access their power. And proved that Minion retains souls.
- So, if you believe that Minion retains souls in assimilation, you have to believe my plan. It's not as far-fetched as they want you to believe. It's really quite simple, yet incredibly powerful.
- Scrambler can't scramble tech or skills. So Minion/KK are safe. Leo actually gave up on it a while ago. He clung to scrambling the Marvels, but has no proof of magical scrambling, or of anything that powerful. And the Marvel power can be called down again in its original form, so scrambling has no affect on it.
- Batman was forgotten, Cortez dies, Scrambler (see above). Cortez's amps are really only useful for speed, which makes them equal to me. They created a 1-on-1 with a herald level being. It's a nice mesh, no doubt, but lacking in raw power. A few elements aren't going to phase me. Acid, promethium, etc. etc. all pale in comparison to my energy attacks, speed, strength, etc. The sun-flying would work. The thunderclaps would most certainly work. The whirlwind has a good chance of working. The lightning vaporization would work. I'm likely forgetting others I mentioned.
- All the while, my epic durability and nigh-tourney-limit healing would keep me alive through literally anything.
- It may have been overlooked, but Scoob mentioned converting Ultimo's power core into Shift. Which only works as long as they remain as a conductive element. As soon as they go to mist, they lose that power because the electrical power would disperse, having nothing to contain it.
- Heh. Almost forgot. Specifically trying to corrode me, scramble me, encase my insides with promethium, etc. etc. even with a cloud would be considered a deliberate attack that is aimed at me. Which my aversion field protects against. THEY CAN'T TOUCH ME DIRECTLY, EVEN WITH A MIST!!! To do so they'd have to be aiming next to me or "around" me. Really, only wide-range energy bursts would ever even touch my character. I'm completely immune to every attack they have used. I can't believe I forgot that until now.
Anyway. Owned to hell right there. heck, that last point does about 80% of the work for me. Vote for Digi. I put in ALL the work I needed to, showed you every pertinent point, proved everything that was necessary.
Please read Post #10 for references and explanations of all of these and more.
Just for quick reference:
Soul Stuff
Every scan that justifies my soul assimilation. Particularly the exorcism scan, which would literally be impossible if he didn't encase souls within him.
Jason says:
what am I supposed to do?
Jon says:
clean your apt before she moves in? buy some pink bed sheets? scented candles?
Jason says:
wait, u have pink bed sheets?
Jon says:
ive said too much
But seriously, good match. Despite feeling like I backed my plan amply with evidence, I was expecting a split decision. Scoobs, leo, you're as good as they come. You'll be fine.
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no offense digi m'man, but . . . .
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then we solidify INSIDE you and you are done. or forget solidifying--we become nanites and worm our way into his cybernetic systems.
(I know at first glance it SEEMS a silly point, but really, i see no way around it . . .)
Oct 9th, 2008 08:08 PM
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