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Nah, it's you friend that's again confusing yourself by using DC logic to define Marvel.
Again:
I told ya several times already, even posted the scanned proof,
TOAA creates/draws everything that takes place on panel.
The whole concept of omnipotence, being eternal, being God, the Omniverse,
that's all just meaningless drawings on a piece of paper to TOAA.
TOAA draws everything that takes in and the Marvel Omniverse,
they do so from "Heaven" ... which is basically a representation of an artists' drawing studio.
"The Source from which all other power throughout Time & Space springs"
According to Marvel Comics ... it always was, nothing brought it into existence,
of course, everything we see/read on panel is nothing but ideas and drawings of TOAA.
It'ds nothing like that it's about the proper use of words, the definition of the word means that LT and the like aren't omnipotent within Marvel.
Again:
I've acknowledged this but the TOAA is a presence within the MU and as such occupies the role of Supreme Authority there. DC has not done the same for the role of the Presence by adding the writers as a fixture within the DCU.
We're talking about the hierachy of characters and TOAA is at the top of the heap in the MU, the Presence has the same position in DCU without the out-of-universe connotations like writers and artists drawing. The Presence creates and controls all things in the DCU without any reference to whether he fulfills this role as an out-of-universe artist/writer.
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No ones is trying to play dumb. If the TOAA wasn't a presence within Marvel this wouldn't matter. And then you'd be left with the LT and Thanos and the readers wondering where THOTI came from except we know it came from the MU character TOAA.
EDIT: So in the end THOTI isn't equal to the Presence since it was a creation of the MU's Supreme authority TOAA.
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Last edited by Allankles on Oct 12th, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Any attempt at contradicting on panel proof is a vain endeavor at kmc.
Last time:
TOAA is the writer and artist of any given story,
they are represented on panel by illustrated avatars,
they literally draw everything that takes place on panel,
they're not part of stories, they make the stories,
they're not "omnipotent, omniscient blah, blah. blah,
in fact, they're limited as any other human being would be,
cause that's what they're based off of, real human beings that write and draw in comics.
Actually DC has:
Morrison's portrayal of a true comic book "God" in the Animal Man arc:
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TOAA creates/draws everything that takes place on panel,
TOAA is not a presence within Marvel,
TOAA has only appeared to a few times,
and every time it was as a representative avatar of the writer and/or artist
of said title it appeared in.
You keep thinking TOAA looks at other drawings as if they are significant,
but in actuality, the LT, Eternity, THOTI, and every story ever displayed on panel,
was all created by TOAA on a piece of paper, meaning, it's just a fantasy of theirs.
Which in real life is exatly true,
that's what Marvel Comics are, a fantasy of the writers and artists.
Simple and plain, goodness please don't return with the same circle friend.
Show me where on panel or in any bio that's mentioned.
Within comics, in the comic book story, The End: Marvel,
THOTI always was, eternal until Thanos erased it.
Just like the Infinity Being always was, it had no beginning,
it was the original creator of everything Marvel,
it was all, and everything was a part of it, it was God!
And?
Still just an idealized drawing to TOAA.
Because again, every concept withIn Marvel Comics,
is created/drawn by TOAA on a piece of paper.
So in the end, THOTI is equal to the Presence,
since they have both been the Supreme being.
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Last edited by Mr Master on Oct 12th, 2008 at 10:27 PM
what ever you wanna call it. the Presence is the Big Dog and DC. and TOAA is the big Dog at marvel. Thus they are equals. Anyone under either is less than either.
"Many Millennia ago in your Universe, (the Prime Multiverse that is) there was a God with the power of Infinity,
even with control of ALL that is,
the God's loneliness could not be soothed, by his own hand he died"
it doesn't matter what marvel calls thier god. And what DC calls thiers. If DC says nothing can beat the power of the presence then it is supreme. if marvel's power is out of comics, it is still equal to Dc's since it is supreme. all else under either is not equal to either.
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Right, it doesn't matter what Marvel says concerning their comics.
Goodness Enyalus, is it really that hard to comprehend?
I thought the explanations I was delivering were too complex,
then I posted a plethora of unquestionable on panel proof,
confirmed in Handbooks, and Marvel.com,
yet, that wasn't enough,
so I posted Jim Starlin himself corroborating the on panel, bio confirmed facts.
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So because DC says nothing in DCU can beat the Presence that means, automatically, nothing in Marvel can beat the Presence? Try again.
I know. I could see you getting frustrated. Because you're basically repeating yourself with a valid argument and numerous scans of proof.
It's pretty clear cut. Thanos with the Heart of the Infinite was the Supreme Being in Marvel's Universe (and, technically, even out of it since he absorbed it). Which makes him the equal of DC's Presence. And thus, they would probably stalemate.
No. If DC's presence is Supreme, then it is supreme and at best the only things that can stalemate it are other supreme beings. You need to try again. Your mavel fanboyism is irking me to no end. One Company's supreme being is equal to the other's. Period. Anything less than either is not equal to either.
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Oct 12th, 2008 09:51 PM
they create by writing and drawing on paper?
