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Originally posted by namorsubby
sure whatever. everyone knows superman beats whoever he wants to when he "goes all out" and "reaches deep down"


but yeah even before the recton darkseid never made a habit of being defeated. besides a few loses to superman(along with owning him) he's pretty much always been classic darkseid. i hear most superman/darkseid fights were out of continuity anyway.



Seid has a glass jaw. 1 bat boot across the face and he's bleeding like his cherry was popped, and we all know Supes did that long ago. don't get me started on his weakness to stairs.


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classic darkseid fortunately has none of those problems. and classic now equals current so i'm content.


edit:
he endowed jimmy olsen with the power of the new gods and then beat him. darkseid is back


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1 bat boot across the face and he's bleeding like his cherry was popped


I laughed so hard at this. laughing

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Well, I'm with you on that. Darkseid is my favorite DC villian, without a doubt.



Joker's a little disappointed in you Enyalus


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Darkseid is more powerful than Thor and the OE can do more than just direct physical assults, as I've explained in the post above he can warp reality and erase beings from existence with the OE. Unless Mjlonir can absorp reality manipualtion, Thor isn't standing up to the full arsenal of the OE.

And using PIS where Darkseid wasn't applying the OE to full effect doesn't help debates. Not to mention that the Omega Beams can pass through dimensions or any physical object in their way in order to hit a target so writers shooting or not using the fictional concepts of the character is PIS.
WW's bracelets deflected it as will Thor's hammer. Thor is also more powerful than darkseid imo.
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That's cool and all...but Current Thor >> Current Supes.
Yep.


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Thor with Odinforce takes this. Regular Supes seems to be enough to take out Darkseid. Darkseid having the ability to create celestial bodies or alter reality sounds impressive but that's old hat for the Odinforce. Thor would be immune from being turned into a zombie.

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darkseid created brimstone who beat cosmic boy,firestorm, and the JLA single handily. he could take thor.


darkseid wins.


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WW's bracelets deflected it as will Thor's hammer.


WW's bracelets deflected simple energy beams, nothing like reality warping. Thor isn't on Darkseid's level, get that bs outta here. Current DS > Current Thor. Current Darkseid has the power to dominate all sentient life (he has knowledge of the full ALE).

Thor is a glorified top tier with a hammer and with decent energy versatility, DS has energy versatility, reality warping, time and space manipulation the works.

On top of that he has the ALE (knowledge, not some nifty gizmo or power up but knowledge) Darkseid controls free will itself what's Thor going to do?

DS' specific powerset is more insidious than what Thor is used to with his Asgardian rogues, he doesn't have the tools to take current DS.


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WW's bracelets deflected simple energy beams, nothing like reality warping. Thor isn't on Darkseid's level, get that bs outta here. Current DS > Current Thor. Current Darkseid has the power to dominate all sentient life (he has knowledge of the full ALE).

Thor is a glorified top tier with a hammer and with decent energy versatility, DS has energy versatility, reality warping, time and space manipulation the works.

On top of that he has the ALE (knowledge, not some nifty gizmo or power up but knowledge) Darkseid controls free will itself what's Thor going to do?

DS' specific powerset is more insidious than what Thor is used to with his Asgardian rogues, he doesn't have the tools to take current DS.
So who stop Darkseid in DC?


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So who stop Darkseid in DC?

No one.

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WW's bracelets deflected simple energy beams, nothing like reality warping. Thor isn't on Darkseid's level, get that bs outta here. Current DS > Current Thor. Current Darkseid has the power to dominate all sentient life (he has knowledge of the full ALE).

Thor is a glorified top tier with a hammer and with decent energy versatility, DS has energy versatility, reality warping, time and space manipulation the works.

On top of that he has the ALE (knowledge, not some nifty gizmo or power up but knowledge) Darkseid controls free will itself what's Thor going to do?

DS' specific powerset is more insidious than what Thor is used to with his Asgardian rogues, he doesn't have the tools to take current DS.


cool I personally believe DS could just disenchant the hammer and absorb the odin forece outta him.


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No one.


Come on. We know that isn't true. Superman will stop him with a) some crazy plot device, or b) by deciding to finally "not hold back," thus increasing his power level to over 9000 for the win.

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No one.


I think Supes will eventually, maybe Supes will fully remember his"PC life"and finally have access to his lost powers becoming the man he once was with all his newly attained experience/powers.


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WW's bracelets deflected simple energy beams, nothing like reality warping. Thor isn't on Darkseid's level, get that bs outta here. Current DS > Current Thor. Current Darkseid has the power to dominate all sentient life (he has knowledge of the full ALE).

Thor is a glorified top tier with a hammer and with decent energy versatility, DS has energy versatility, reality warping, time and space manipulation the works.

On top of that he has the ALE (knowledge, not some nifty gizmo or power up but knowledge) Darkseid controls free will itself what's Thor going to do?

DS' specific powerset is more insidious than what Thor is used to with his Asgardian rogues, he doesn't have the tools to take current DS.
We cant gauge current Ds because he hasnt fought anyone. Thats why when there is a Thanos thread we always gauge it on annihilation Thanos because we dont have any showings to gauge his power level. This is common sense.

When has Darkseid used reality warping to defeat an opponent...why didnt he ever use that to defeat Superman...one of the many times he has stalemated him,the time he ran from Superman,or the time he was just flat out beat by the man of steel.

Thor has a hammer and Ds doesnt have the ale for the purposes of this thread. Thor wins due to his war hammer.


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cool I personally believe DS could just disenchant the hammer and absorb the odin forece outta him.
Based on what?


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Based on what?


...umm I dunno feats that u seem to overlook every convinient time.


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I think Supes will eventually, maybe Supes will fully remember his"PC life"and finally have access to his lost powers becoming the man he once was with all his newly attained experience/powers.

Superman has never beaten DS. Final Crisis has it set up so that the Seven Soldiers DS is the last one we see in the actual reality. The other was retconned out of existance into the 5th world.

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...umm I dunno feats that u seem to overlook every convinient time.
So what feats has Darkseid showed an ability to completely disenchant magical weapons on the level of Mjolnir? He seemed to get punked by Wonder Woman's bracelets...


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So what feats has Darkseid showed an ability to completely disenchant magical weapons on the level of Mjolnir? He seemed to get punked by Wonder Woman's bracelets...


Puncked.....r u reading the same arc. Besides assuming he couldnt disenchant Mjolmir for whatever reason, he will just suck the odin force outta him and add it to his own power which will then give him the power to disenchant Mjolmir.


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...umm I dunno feats that u seem to overlook every convinient time.
Such as?
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Superman has never beaten DS. Final Crisis has it set up so that the Seven Soldiers DS is the last one we see in the actual reality. The other was retconned out of existance into the 5th world.
Where is the proof?

How can we do threads about a darkseid we have never seen fight?


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