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World War Hulk vs Thanos (h2h slugfest)
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Nihilist
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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Hulk wins, just like beyonder said he strength has omnipotent potential he can get stronger than anyone
showings>>>>statements by a retconned character.


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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
1. Thanos didn't flee for fear of Surfer.. I'm not sure where you got that from. The point still stands… We have seen nothing that suggest that Surfer would do any better against Thanos now, then before. We have the head of Marvel specifically saying Surfer was given no power upgrade. With that said, I see no reason why it would go any different

2. You keep saying Prof. Hulk is weak and thus this has no bearing on the fight, but it does, and very much so. Follow alone carver please… Prof. Hulk has impressive feats.. Thing has impressive feats…. Even if you say that Hulk is the weakest.. Adding The Thing's strength… would certainly make for any strength inferiority Prof Hulk has with other Hulk, or at least close the gap. Thanos EASILY overpowered and MOCKED their STRENGTH. Proving he is A LOT more powerful than those two strong guys COMBINED. Now, WWH is the strongest, cool, then this should bring him around Thanos level then, as Thanos himself is considerably stronger than Prof Hulk and The Thing. Understand?

3. I don't ever remember saying Hulk was depowered or his powers taken away. I never recall ever saying such a thing. What I did say.. was Hulk burnt out and reverted back to Banner. In other words.. He used up all the anger he had and was reduced to Banner. The expending of energy to fight sentry and the damage he took, made this happen. However, and this is the key…. A NEW.. A NEW thing came to the attention of the Hulk that made him even more pissed than he was prior. This is why he was able to again become the Hulk and WBH no less. I hope this clears it up, as this is exactly supported by on panel evidence.

4. Lastly, your point proved my point and what I was saying which you didn’t even realize. You claim Hulk holds back his strength and his punches from reaching these trillion level punches.. Yet, Thanos doesn't… Cool. Now Thanos dopple was more powerful than Thanos… and as you say.. certainly not holding back punches and has no issue killing people… Yet, he wasn’t able to even come close to putting Thanos down. Lets not forget… Magus smacking Thanos twice with the IG.. and it not KOing him much less killing him. Point is, there zero evidence nor any indication that WWH would be able to KO Thanos.. let alone kill him. He's taken shots from far far more powerful beings that WWH.


I don't think you remember what scene I am talking about. Thanos seen surfer from a distance shooting high intense beams that were creating large black holes and stated that he had to leave. I will post the scan for you but its during annihilation.

It doesn't matter who professor hulk was teamed with, he isn't a fraction of what current hulk is. I can't remember a decent strength feat from professor hulk. He is strong but he is the weakest of the hulks. Please don't use the mountain lifting feeat either because you brought that up before and that wasn't professor hulk that lifted up the mountain, that was savage hulk. That was a nice feat for thanos but its not all what you are making it. Especially since we have a scene during IW where both thing and P hulk wrestled thanos to the ground and pounded away on him until he shrunk them. Skaar feats are more impressive. The entire fantastic four alone with the some avengers were unable to budge skaar but hulk was able to move him.

I know you didn't say he was weakened BUT you did say he was depowered/burnt out. No matter how mad a person can get, if they are depowered/burnt out, they shouldn't be able to power back up "no matter the circumstances". Seconds later, AFTER this depowering/burnt out, hulk went super saiyan, went to a level he has never been at before. Sentry did not burn him out.

I nevere said that thanos isn't tuff or strong, he is but EVERYONE can be taken out blunt force trama and hulk alone has the strength to do this. If you don't think that a guy that can reach 100 of trillions of tons instantly while continuing to amp can't knock thanos out, then I need to stop debating with you. It will take time but hulk CAN knock him out.


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I don't think you remember what scene I am talking about. Thanos seen surfer from a distance shooting high intense beams that were creating large black holes and stated that he had to leave. I will post the scan for you but its during annihilation.

It doesn't matter who professor hulk was teamed with, he isn't a fraction of what current hulk is. I can't remember a decent strength feat from professor hulk. He is strong but he is the weakest of the hulks. Please don't use the mountain lifting feeat either because you brought that up before and that wasn't professor hulk that lifted up the mountain, that was savage hulk. That was a nice feat for thanos but its not all what you are making it. Especially since we have a scene during IW where both thing and P hulk wrestled thanos to the ground and pounded away on him until he shrunk them. Skaar feats are more impressive. The entire fantastic four alone with the some avengers were unable to budge skaar but hulk was able to move him.

I know you didn't say he was weakened BUT you did say he was depowered/burnt out. No matter how mad a person can get, if they are depowered/burnt out, they shouldn't be able to power back up "no matter the circumstances". Seconds later, AFTER this depowering/burnt out, hulk went super saiyan, went to a level he has never been at before. Sentry did not burn him out.

I nevere said that thanos isn't tuff or strong, he is but EVERYONE can be taken out blunt force trama and hulk alone has the strength to do this. If you don't think that a guy that can reach 100 of trillions of tons instantly while continuing to amp can't knock thanos out, then I need to stop debating with you. It will take time but hulk CAN knock him out.



First, you can post whatever scan you want as I've read it numerous times. There is nothing that indicates Thanos was scared of surfer or in fear of confronting him

Second, you keep saying Prof. Hulk isn't strong and that just isn't true… I'm pretty sure it was him doing the mountain range feat and regardless nothing was proven like you claim. Prof. hulk needed to have xavier talking to him to keep his anger levels up in order to do the feat. Savage hulk wouldn't ever need such a thing, as by nature, he's savage hulk. It was either the mountain range feat or the pyramid one. Point is, he has strength feats.. so does the thing… To claim that current Hulk is exponentionally stronger than those two combined, is shall me, comical. Regardless, you have shown me NOTHING that places current Hulk as being stronger than Thanos. What we do know is Thanos is A LOT stronger than Prof Hulk and The Thing combined. Current Hulk is probably as well. Now what on God's green earth is leading you to believe current hulk is a lot stronger than Thanos boggles my mind. Please post the feats that back up this claim.

Jesus Carver… Sentry DID burn him out.. it's right there on panel. Please show me ANY narration that states Hulk transformed back to Banner on his own. Please post this narration. Problem is, it doesn't exist. The narration and artistic depiction are quite clear. Hulk burnt out all the anger he had and reverted back to banner. A NEW THING came to Hulk's attention and he then got pissed again. I'm really need 1000 facepalms for how you can understand this very basic concept that is Hulk's exact persona. Nobody ever claimed Hulk's gamma and anger no longer existed when he reverted back. What is clear.. is that he burnt out all the anger he had. However, when he found out even worse news… of course that anger and gamma would rear it's head again. It's really not a tough concept to understand.

Lets me break this down as best as I can… We've seen WWH.. burnt out by Sentry…. Sentry is inferior to Thanos. Thus, Thanos could very easily make WWH burn out. Furthermore, we've seen Hulk KO'd by MUCH MUCH less than what Thanos can bring to the table. Next, we've seen countless upon countless people take punches from EVERY hulk incarnation and it not KO them let alone kill them… people with exponentionally less durability than Thanos. We know Thanos is a much better MA artist than Hulk. Thus, how you're claiming Hulk will be winning a h2h encounter and landing more blows I have no idea. Thanos will be landing the majority of the blows in this fight.

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exactly as i thought u conceded long ago.. no response

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Pak talked about the Sentry and Hulk fight in detail here

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=136412

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I love when writers give in depth interviews like that. Awesome.

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lol, just registered for this site purely to comment on this forum (yes, I'm aware it's over a year old) KuRuPT Thanosi: ur more or less right imo (hate to say it, cause Hulk's my favorite character, but I'm just being objective here) Unless Hulk STARTS at WBH levels, he's unlikly to win, because Thanos will just put everything he's got into the first few punches and KO the hulk, reverting him to Banner, and making him an easy kill. I think if he started at WBH levels, Hulk would win (I vaguely remember reading a what if comic saying that at that point WBH was as powerful as the Silver Surfer, who could at least prevent a quick finish.) If Thanos doesn't get a quick finish, I don't think he's gonna win. I agree, WWH did seem to depict him burning out temporarily toward the end of his fight with Sentry, BUT IMO that was the ONE problem with the the way the Hulk was depicted in the WWH comic. Hulk, by description of his powers, SHOULDN'T EVER run out of steam. In fact the opposite should happen, he should either stay the same do to having nothing to get angry about, or get stronger, due to the reverse. And keep in mind, his strength isn't the only thing that improves as is anger increases. His healing factor (which is already faster than wolverines) becomes even faster. But as I said: If Hulk is starting as his WWH levels, he just doesn't QUITE have the durability to BLUNT FORCE to withstand a series of full force pushes from Thanos without at least getting KOed. Thanos, being the genius strategist he is, wouldn't hold his punches at the start of the fight against an opponent who goes stronger each moment the fight progresses.

Anyway, I'm done, just wanna say thanks to Carver9 for being the most objective one here, and the only one to give any intelligent reasons why my favorite character would win (the correctness of his stance being another matter entirely)

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WWH crushes him.

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Indeed.

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@Kurupt...

So you're telling me that if someone is depleted of their power, they can become far more powerful seconds later. Think about this. It's not a hard question.


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Hulk gets punched to death.


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I actually rate this version of Hulk under Kurse and Mangog.Thanos takes him with minimal problems.

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I actually rate this version of Hulk under Kurse and Mangog.Thanos takes him with minimal problems.


Hey Zom, has your comic collection increased since you left?


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Yes,it went from 4,000 to 4,000.5 I added a comic section from a sunday paper smart ass!

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I actually rate this version of Hulk under Kurse and Mangog.Thanos takes him with minimal problems.


Thanos fought Kurse and Mangog (by the way, Hulk would kill Kurse)?


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Yes,it went from 4,000 to 4,000.5 I added a comic section from a sunday paper smart ass!


I was just asking a polite question, before you left you always used to talk about collecting comics and stuff.

No need to insult me.


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I was just asking a polite question, before you left you always used to talk about collecting comics and stuff.

No need to insult me.


Zom has all the need and we're his humble servants.

Glad to see you're back, Master Zom. This forum is yours.


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WWH
Healing and a little stronger

Thanos
Better skill

I go with WWH, buts it's a good fight.


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Zom has all the need and we're his humble servants.

Glad to see you're back, Master Zom. This forum is yours.
Thank you StiltmanFTW,I gladly accept that mantle and will use my vast power as I please.OneAngryscot,I thought you where being sarcastic.

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