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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I asked a reasonable question in order to discern the reasoning for his statements.
Yeah, I didn't mean you though, hence quoting inimalist.

I do agree that highness does cause thoughts that venture into such realms though...and the point that much of what he says is not very thought through also is a sign for it.

On the other hand, inimalist makes a good point while being high.

Also, we should talk about limits, not highness.


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On the other hand, inimalist makes a good point while being high.


that was my only point...

and my post was sort of a euphemism for your first one as well... Not in a mean way though... cause you know, I roll like that


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Originally posted by inimalist
that was my only point...

and my post was sort of a euphemism for your first one as well... Not in a mean way though... cause you know, I roll like that


Nah, you also made good points about limits being often artificial on artificial scales.

That's what I meant


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Nah, you also made good points about limits being often artificial on artificial scales.

That's what I meant


I'd have to say they are all artificial though

Its like Xeno's paradox of motion. An object must pass through an infinite number of specific locations before reaching another point.

Our scales are totally man made, in a way for us to put the universe into sort of discrete pieces. I guess it is true that they represent natural phenomena, but the measures and values are all man made.


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Originally posted by inimalist
doesn't this depend entirely on the variable in question?

like, we can define scales with ends, thus limits exist.

hell, the concept of a limit is contingent to something having a variable that exists in a scale upon which a measurement can be made. All such scales are anthropic. So, yes, limits can exist, but only because we define them.
You're saying there isn't an actual limit to things. Which is what made me think, how is that possible?

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hey, that is prejudice against those of us who are high right now
Not cool.


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I'd have to say they are all artificial though

Its like Xeno's paradox of motion. An object must pass through an infinite number of specific locations before reaching another point.

Our scales are totally man made, in a way for us to put the universe into sort of discrete pieces. I guess it is true that they represent natural phenomena, but the measures and values are all man made.
I agree the scales are all manmade. The limits though, I don't know. I would say there are some limits that exist that we describe on scales.

And just stop whining, xyz, not cool


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You're saying there isn't an actual limit to things. Which is what made me think, how is that possible?


see my answer to Bardock

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Not cool.


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I agree the scales are all manmade. The limits though, I don't know. I would say there are some limits that exist that we describe on scales.

And just stop whining, xyz, not cool


Ya, it slipped my mind for a second that we were talking about limits and not scales.

I guess what you put earlier about which type of limit we are talking about is the most important, and knowing the particular variable in question.

Like, there is a limit to the lowest possible width of a solid object, an atom's width, but maybe that just pushes the anthropic definition back one level, and now "object" and "width" become the anthropic terms.

I don't know, I guess I have to concede that the physical properties of the universe do limit things in a certain way. Though, what Sym said about math being limitless is true.


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On a scale of one to ten, how high are you right now?
Is there a limit to how high he could be? Is ten the limit?


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Is there a limit to how high he could be? Is ten the limit?


*sigh*

Listen to me you plebeian, it's a logarithmic scale with an asymptote at ten. Get it?


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numbers are concepts. anything PHYSICAL, from all that we have seen, has LIMITS to their magnitude, in whatever physical property we want to see. among EXISTING things, id say that imagination is the only thing that has no limits,

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Kind of a dumb thread here.

Damn my boredom.


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