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Darth Martin
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and was Mathis a double agent or not? At the end of Casino Royale M says "Well this proves that Mathis is innocent" but they still tortured him and what not. kind of confused about that.
Mathis was playing around when he said "they" tortured him. He mean the part where they tazered his back in Casino Royale.

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First off I have to say that i am a big bond fan,but I would have to give this movie a big fat zero out of ten, it sucked.
There was no humor in it at all. no martini shaken not stirred, no bond, james bond. none of the one liners. They should of and could of gone with a new story without continuing 20min after casino royale.
The chase scenes were way to close and shakey, made me dizzy and couldn't tell who was who. and the editing and jumping back and forth between the horse race and the chace and the opera and the gun fight was just stupid, don't try to be so artistic. They couldn't even come up with a different way to kill Fields, drench her in oil and put her on the bed just like Jill Masterson in Goldfinger, i mean come on it was the same scene even her pose on the bed, just stupid. and you give an agent the name fields and don't even put a joke in??? I was expecting M or Felix to phone bond, and he says that he is just in the field or something like that. This is one of the worst bonds, right there with licence to kill and the world is not enough.


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sad On the contrary I thought this was the second best behind Casino Royale, and also I think LTK is a great Bond movie. Different tastes I guess.

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Mathis was playing around when he said "they" tortured him. He mean the part where they tazered his back in Casino Royale.


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...was Mathis a double agent or not? At the end of Casino Royale M says "Well this proves that Mathis is innocent" but they still tortured him and what not. kind of confused about that.


M said "well this proves Mathis was innocent", but Bond was sceptical and says it only proves that Vesper was in on it, not that Mathis was innocent - It could have been a "double-blind", where neither Vesper or Mathis knew that the other was in on it.

In a nutshell - just because they found out Vesper was selling them out didn't neccesarily mean Mathis was innocent. And yes, Mathis was actually tortured until they eventually found out he was innocent, he wasn't kidding around. And Bond left him to be tortured and Mathis keeps referring to that. Before he dies, he asks Bond not to leave him, alluding to the forementioned.


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Yea I was somewhat disappointed with Quantum Solace, it seemed like they just through a bunch of shyt together and said there's the movie. Casino Royale in my opinion was better than this new bond flick.

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Just came back from seeing the movie. All I can say is...wow. I was totally let down by this one in almost every way possible, which is a shame considering how much I loved Casino Royale. Now I wont fly off the deep end and call the movie "terrible...sucked" and all that garbage. It just didn't do anything for me. I thought the pacing was slow...it was utterly confusing. The action scenes were good...yes, but actions scenes aren't what I'm after in a movie.

Above all, this just didn't really feel like a Jame Bond movie...and maybe thats why I didn't like it. It seems to me like they are turning 007 into a bad guy almost...obviously he isn't, but I'm not so sure that I'm really digging the darker side of Bond. The ending as well seemed pretty abrupt and didn't really feel like anything was concluded.

Although this is really minor and not a major deal...or perhaps I just didn't pay good enough attention, but where was the "Bond, Jame Bond" line? I don't recall hearing that once, and thats tradition for crying out loud.


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Perhaps this movie would have been better suited as being filmed with Casino Royale and being released last year, while they filmed 23 to be released next November. To me, it just seemed like a midquel story, that had no real conclusion and just continued Casino Royale.

As for the movie itself, though, I enjoyed it, even with it having too much of a Jason Bourne film. I liked Greene, I liked White, and I love Quantam; I hope they keep the later two in future films. Daniel Craig was great, and Judi Dench was fantastic. Overall, I'd give this film an 8 as a movie, but only a 5 as a James Bond film.


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Hi there,
The new James Bond movie .i.e " Quantum Of Solace " is remarkable doing well in the box office of all over the world.as well as becoming favorites of most viewers. The Domestic Total as of Dec. 9, 2008 is $152,720,716. just imagine the popularity of this movie. Many people in this forums we not satisfied with the movie. they were expecting similar to the previous Bond movie "Casino Royal ". But this movie is much better then the earlier one. While both movies have remarkably done well in box office.

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The main problem QOS has: Where's the beef?
I fail to see a storyline in this as nothing is lost or gained at the end of the movie... I wonder what took Paul Haggis so long to polish the script as the emphasis is on action and definitly not on any story.


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I have not seen this latest Bond film as of the present time of writing. Is it worth seeing?Is it better than Casino Royale which I rented but was overall not that impressed by.

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No. No story at all. Not worth any spending. If you're all about brainless action and lousy storytelling: than yes.


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Defintely not. Thank you for the wise counsel. I prefer my movies to have some point to them.

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I have not seen this latest Bond film as of the present time of writing. Is it worth seeing?Is it better than Casino Royale which I rented but was overall not that impressed by.
I consider QOS to be #2 on my list of Bond films. #1 is Casino Royale, so if you didn't like that one not surew if you'll like this one. I think of it as a continuation, not a sequel.

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It's definitely a continuation to Casino Royale. I watched Quantum again last night and although I like the movie very much it is slightly weaker when compared to CR and that's mainly due to an unclear story and not enough emphasis on the villain. I think Bond works just as well as the movie's villain, if that makes sense. At some points in the movie you're left wondering what and who Bond is after, whereas in Casino Royale it was always clear that Le Chiffre was the target. The only other thing I think made the film suffer was it's editing. I don't think there was a shot that lasted more than 5 seconds. It was very flash, sharp, straight cuts and very difficult to watch at some points.

Hopefully the producers and writers know what went wrong with QoS and will make sure less complaints are made next time round. Can't wait!


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I just rented this and i loved it its the best bond movie ever

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Am I missing something, why people saying this movie sucked? Was a damn good movie and I like the fact he's out for revenge.

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Am I missing something, why people saying this movie sucked? Was a damn good movie and I like the fact he's out for revenge.
The difference between Quantum and Licence to Kill is that the latter had a storyline.
In Quantum you start with revenge and in the end he's got that but has gained absolutely no new information on the organization. Even worse, they're talking about moving to a new storyline without Quantum!


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