Okay Gladiator claims he can tow a planet, but lets see some actual proof. ......... Two Captain Marvel could stand his ground against eclipsed Supes b/c he is resistant to magic. However, I will agree with the rest of your logic except for Gladiator being Superior. Lobos strength fluctuates so much with the right artist and writer he could trounce Gladiator. He is a much more ruthless/savage and all around dirty fight than gladiator. So I think it is safe to say it would be a good fight.
Yes but the Hulk held a planet together... in fact most incarnations of the Hulk start at less power than he did when shifting a continent, but all have the potential to perform this feat... even exceed it. neither Gladiator, or Lobo increase in power so being beaten by the Hulk isn't really making Gladiator look that bad.
No offense, but I think you have it backwards the only Lobo that takes this is the toon Lobo, and he is far from being portrayed seriously. Mainstream Lobo.. the one that appears in Superman, or Supergirl comics loses this.
it's true, but that version of Lobo could beat Galactus, the Lobo that shares comic space with other heroes is far less powerful. What can I say toon Lobo is above many skyfathers, while mainstrean Lobo is less than Superman, who Gladiator was based on.
If you believe that Lobo is powerful enough to lift an entire universe with one hand, you must also believe that he could beat Darkseid with one finger. Either you believe that Lobo is that powerful all of the time or you don't, are you saying that Lobo can beat Superman without an effort?
According to the way that you are debating for Team Lobo I can only guess that you believe that Lobo could beat a full powered Tyrant, because anyone that could lift an entire universe with one hand is above Tyrant. Or do we go with Lobo's showings in mainstream DC comics? You know, where he struggles to beat Supergirl in an arm wrestling match, or he get's punched once and KO'ed by an eclipsed Superman.
Captain Marvel took a full punch from an ecliped Superman, and the magical resistance crap doesn't stick, an impact is an impact, and Captain Marvel took it far better than Lobo.
As I said before toon Lobo can beat just about anyone, while mainstream Lobo would have trouble keeping up to Marvels Hercules. If this was Superman vs Pagan, why do I get the feeling that you'd claim that the reason why SUperman would win is because he has many more powers than Lunatik? Well guess what? Gladiator makes Lobo look like a one trick pony.
Yeah because only Lobo has low showings good way to debate your point. Lobo rips Gladz head off then unfects the entire Shi'ar Empire with an virus that wipes them out just for kicks.
Way to pull out some low showings to help your case.
Lobo doesn't have the same type of invulnerability as Superman. Neither does Wonder Woman, or even Thor. Who've all been dropped by pretty weak attacks at one point or another, ones that just bounce off of characters of similar invulernability. It doesn't make them any less tough of an opponent. It certainly doesn't make them weak.
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Nope I was just showing how Lobo has far too many ups, and downs. I call his mainstream powerset, the one that Superman can oneshot him, and he has trouble beating Supergirl in an arm wrestling match.
I call Lobo's toon feats when he does things like hold the weight of a universe in one hand... this in fact would make him more powerful than Galactus after eating several hundred planets... should we make a thread with Lobo's toon feats vs Galactus to make a point?
Mainstream Lobo loses, there will be no Shiar loss of life, or anything ridiculous like that. Toon Lobo kills Gladiator along with half of the Marvel Universe.
So we associate only the ones you're cool with as acceptable feats, and the ones you don't like are "toon", or unnacceptable? lol.
Lifting a universe is an unquantifiable feat. It's completely badass, and obviously was meant to take a lot of strength... but it's unquantifiable. Dr Fate had a universe inside of his Helmet. I bet trying to fight in that thing is a complete pain.
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......... Two Captain Marvel could stand his ground against eclipsed Supes b/c he is resistant to magic. However, I will agree with the rest of your logic except for Gladiator being Superior. Lobos strength fluctuates so much with the right artist and writer he could trounce Gladiator. He is a much more ruthless/savage and all around dirty fight than gladiator. So I think it is safe to say it would be a good fight.
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