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A quick question - does an SD have proton torpedo bays? I don't think so, but I'm not going to say no yet.
Anyway, my favorite ST ship is the Defiant. An SD would be torn to pieces by quantum type weapons. The Enterprise - E is not invincible as was proven in Nemesis. She had to ram the Scimitar to survive the engagement.
Even Thrawn would have to admire a Defiant class warship.
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No ship is invincible, though the Enterprise taking on the Scimitar and doing fairly well is a testament to it's abilities, as the Scimitar is a pure killing machine.
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Agreed. The Enterprise - E is a hybrid. Warship/Exploration vessel. She was built during the middle of the Dominion War. With 12 phaser arrays, 6 torpedo bays, capacity to do transwarp and enhanced metaphasic shields that is why she survived the engagement despite severe damage.
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the Scimitar was a weapon of exceptional power though. It's even possible that it's the single most powerful vessel in the ST universe
and the scimitar, for the most part, wasn't being used to destroy the enterprise because Shinzon needed Picard alive. If he had wanted to destroy the enterprise it would've been easy.
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Jaden, you are very knowledgeable about SW & ST. The Scimitar had enough firepower to damage the DS and probably could destroy it due to thaloran weapon radiation.
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Personally I like SW over ST, but I keep getting jumped in their forums. I think they hate me there. Just because I'm pro-Revan doesn't make me the enemy.
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Some people just have a hard time being objective, stupid really. It's a silly hypothetical battle over two fictional franchises, Star Trek having superior technology doesn't mean Star Wars is horrible by any means.
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Agreed. I think I'll stay out of the SW forums for awhile.
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story wise i prefer starwars blatent good versus evil simpleness.
star trek, being a long running franchise with hundreds of episodes and several films, has obviously had the opportunity to introduce more in-depth views of some of it's more peripheral species such as the Ferengi and others via DS9...i think it was also heavily influenced from DS9 onward, by babylon 5 as well as some criticism of it being a far too idealised look at human civilisation...hence came the Maquis resistance to Cardassia and the more seedy aspects of DS9 that remind me a lot of Mos Eisley.
It's because you keep bringing up points that multiple members have addressed already. Also it is kind of annoying with the amount of sw vs st threads you made.
In regards to this thread perhaps there should be a discussion about the strategists of the empire compared to the ones in ST (particularly the ones who are from the current military being discussed.)
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As far as I know, the Empire lost to much smaller and less armed group called the 'Rebel Alliance'. The Federation has beaten the Dominion and the held off/defeated the Borg on several occasions. They also had wars with the Klingon and Romulan empires in the past.
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The problem with the Rebel Alliance example though is that the Empire was faced with the same problem that the US has right now in Iraq... we don't know who to shoot. If the Rebel Alliance had taken over, say, a planet by force and was holding it as their base of operations, the GE would have ****ed them up.
... though both Death Star's were destroyed in a straight up fight. So meh. The movie depiction of the Empire is pathetic.
it was only possible to destroy the death stars with fast and agile small 1 man crafts, and with good pilots. star trek is lacking these things, so no st vessel wuld stand a chance against a death star.
doesn't really matter...the SW fighters would be totally useless...they don't have the firepower to scratch an ST ship...even Danube class runabouts would take on tie fighters
The SW fighters air to air/space to space combat wise, might have future-seeing Jedi piloting them. Might be harder to draw a bead on those particular flyboys, with the outcome of any action being potentially sussed in advance...
Would even the top federation pilots be able to cope against that advantage on the way in on the attack the Death Stars/Larger ships..?
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