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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
it was only possible to destroy the death stars with fast and agile small 1 man crafts, and with good pilots. star trek is lacking these things, so no st vessel wuld stand a chance against a death star.


Technically if the second death star was completely finished then it wouldn't have had the exhaust port that Luke exploited in A New Hope.

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Good point.


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I do have to admit that ST has better looking ships than SW. But, it does look a little bit weird that a ragtag group of rebels defeated the Empire. But then again, the United States did defeat England in the Revolutionary War without a professional army and sub standard weapons.

Robtard, you bring up a point that the Federation defeat the Dominion and the Borg. I hate to say this, but that is true only to a certain point of view. The Federation had to assemble an alliance against the Dominion. It was only the Klingons and the Federation who were fighting at the early stages of the war. They were barely holding the line otherwise the Federation would have been overrun. General Martok even admited that the Klingon Empire was barely keeping the Dominion at bay while the Federation was rebuilding the Fleet. It was only until when the Romulans entered the war and the Cardassians rebelled did the war end.

For the Borg, they didn't launch an all out invasion. One Cube isn't enough to conquer the Alpha Quadrant. Now 15 . . . that's an entire differently story. Even for the Empire, if the didn't have any superweapons like the Sun Crusher or Death Star, if 15 or 20 Cubes attacked the SW univerise, there might be a different outcome. ST shields are far stronger than SW shields.


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Very true, the Federation did need allies to defeat the Dominion, as they're a seriously power force. But it stands to reason that those alliances could be made again (as specified by the thread starter), if a foreign galactic empire was battling the ST universe.

I didn't mean they defeated the Borg all out, that would be taking out thousands of worlds, just that they were successful in several fights against them.

From what has been shown here, I think the Federation has the ships, personal and overall firepower to take on and eventually defeat the SW Empire/forces without the help of the Klingon or Romulan Empires, but drawing of those empires for help is just a further plus.


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I dunno, never underestimate the power of a good soundtrack.

Going into battle to the 'imperial march' would bring out the best world conquering side in me fer sure...... stick out tongue

Those Star Trek fleets'll have only Jerry Goldsmith backing 'em up.
(Or even that f***ing dreadful theme song for 'Enterprise'.) wink

You may scoff, but the military used to send in the troops to speed and death metal for that reason.





However if William Shatner is writing/directing this movie then somehow Kirk will beat the empire to death with his todger, and sleep with all their women.


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Originally posted by jaden101



Dunno if this has been addressed or not, but at the time of Order 66, Sideous had cast basically a cloud on all the Jedi's intuition. It was harder than normal to sense certain things, the Clone's betrayal being numero uno.


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I dunno, never underestimate the power of a good soundtrack.

Going into battle to the 'imperial march' would bring out the best world conquering side in me fer sure...... stick out tongue

Those Star Trek fleets'll have only Jerry Goldsmith backing 'em up.
(Or even that f***ing dreadful theme song for 'Enterprise'.) wink

You may scoff, but the military used to send in the troops to speed and death metal for that reason.

However if William Shatner is writing/directing this movie then somehow Kirk will beat the empire to death with his todger, and sleep with all their women.


It's been a long road

Get'n from there to here
It's been a long time
But my time is finally near

I will see my dreams come alive at last
I will touch the sky
And they're not gonna hold me down no more
No they're not gonna change my mind

(Chorus)
'Cause I've got faith of the heart
I'm going where my heart will take me
I've got faith to believe
I can do anything
I've got strength of the soul
No one's going to bend nor break me
I can reach any star
I've got faith
I've got faith
Faith of the heart


Sing it, ****, SING IT!

If the ST side gets Shatner at the helm of any ship, it's over for the Empire.


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Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Dunno if this has been addressed or not, but at the time of Order 66, Sideous had cast basically a cloud on all the Jedi's intuition. It was harder than normal to sense certain things, the Clone's betrayal being numero uno.


Jedi still get killed, Force or no, which is the point.


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Or maybe, as is actually the case, all the Jedi weren't actually capable of force vision

quote from wooki

"Force Visions were extremely rare, and uncontrollable. Often, one would meditate to gain a vision, but only a few would actually succeed"


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Originally posted by Robtard
It's been a long road

Get'n from there to here
It's been a long time
But my time is finally near

I will see my dreams come alive at last
I will touch the sky
And they're not gonna hold me down no more
No they're not gonna change my mind

(Chorus)
'Cause I've got faith of the heart
I'm going where my heart will take me
I've got faith to believe
I can do anything
I've got strength of the soul
No one's going to bend nor break me
I can reach any star
I've got faith
I've got faith
Faith of the heart


Sing it, ****, SING IT!

If the ST side gets Shatner at the helm of any ship, it's over for the Empire.


lolz My ears! They bleed!!!!! My eyes're also bleeding tears of stinging piss with blood in it just having read that.

May Russell Watson be the first up aginst the wall or first packed forcibly into a Photon Torpedo and fired into...... a giant rancor littertray.

'Tis true Only William Shatner could defeat them.... He is a 'Rocket man' after all. shifty


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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
'Tis true Only William Shatner could defeat them.... He is a 'Rocket man' after all. shifty



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Heheheheheeeeeeee Never gets old, that.

That Stewie Griffin parody was spot on.


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Heheheheheeeeeeee Never gets old, that.

That Stewie Griffin parody was spot on.


Yeah, Seth McFarlane did that seamlessly.

I do love Shatner, even though he's an egotistical, self-absorbed ass.


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Totally.

Mind you, at least he had the good-sportsmanship to lampoon himself well in "Free Enterprise".. stick out tongue


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Emperor Tiberious ...opposite universe of Kirks...wonder what Emperor Palpatine would be like in an opposite universe?.....hmm sounds like a job for the general fiction writers..lol..or have they done that yet?


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Originally posted by Robtard
Jedi still get killed, Force or no, which is the point.


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Or maybe, as is actually the case, all the Jedi weren't actually capable of force vision

quote from wooki

"Force Visions were extremely rare, and uncontrollable. Often, one would meditate to gain a vision, but only a few would actually succeed"


Who said anything about seeing visions? There's a difference between force precognition, which is something all Jedi do automatically, and force visions, which is something else entirely.

Force precognition is what grants Obi-Wan the ability to block, literally, over 20 lightsaber strikes per second.

*shrug*


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Who said anything about seeing visions? There's a difference between force precognition, which is something all Jedi do automatically, and force visions, which is something else entirely.

Force precognition is what grants Obi-Wan the ability to block, literally, over 20 lightsaber strikes per second.

*shrug*



force precognition isn't the same as battle precognition....force precognition manifests itself in the form of visions....battle precognition is simply feeling the flow of the force to allow faster reactions and help anticipate what an adversary is going to do

if they could truly see what an opponent could do then a battle between 2 jedi wouldn't end because they would always see what the other was about to do.


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... you're getting most of your info from Wookiepedia, aren't you?


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... you're getting most of your info from Wookiepedia, aren't you?


Whats wrong with that?


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Wookiepedia has a knack for being inaccurate, or too technical.


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