This is a problem I have with ALOT of action movies. CONFIRM THE KILL, JACKASS.
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Yep. As overused a device as the cliche of 'getting your ass kicked just two days from retirement' and 'Dead wife/angry cop'.
But no less frustrating.
McClane usually does, except for Maggie Q (Cause he wasnt actually trying to kill her 'til she tried killing him by kicking him through a window), and Karl and we all know what transpired there.
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Lets not worry about the math, since you rejected the figures I gave you earlier. Lets go based on what we saw on the screen.
(Numerous times where he is "Stealthy but gets ambushed anyways and is captured.")
If he were the steathy agent you make him out to be, he'd never have gotten dunked like in LW2, or captured in the desert in LW1.
Regardless of Rigg's training, John McClanes experience in being stealthy in tower warfare will prevail.
He would have killed himself very soon..
His new relationship with work and Roger and a sense of belonging again stopped him form using the hollow point, for one.
All typically basic buddy movie stuff.
Besides it was clear that anyone who behaves like he used to at the beginning of LW1 wouldnt last long anyhow (The drug dealers, the way he just walks out against the sniper in the director's cut etc.).
And whether Riggs drew in time to catch Joshua or not, MURTAUGH DREW AND SHOT HIM, saving him anyways.
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Yep he knocked her Ninja ass out at least twice(he could have teabagged her ass right there and then, before -as you rightly say- he grew wearisome of her japery.
Well they do say that the hair continues to grow after death,
but all those that would have had their hair burned off horrifically when McClane toasted 'em needn't worry about that.
However I suspect you have already factored that in, of course,
as it would clealry be 99.9999986744448743%, instead of your reported 99.9999987744458742%.
............Setting the record for screaming the loudest "THANK F**K FOR THAT!!!!" since the dawn of monkey.
Hell...he even grew a third leg.
It scientifically and accurately captures the joy recieving of such news: knowing that you arent gonna be brutally beaten and metaphorically raped in combat and then killed in a way that in real life would make most torturers flinch.
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Last edited by Sadako of Girth on Jan 9th, 2009 at 11:51 PM
She beat him h2h. If he had not been kicked out the window, he would have been beaten more. Plain and simple.
If she was nothing but "an annoyance", why did he take the time to find an SUV, drive it upstairs, line it up in a position to run her over, then plow her into the elevator? Why all the drama?
If McClaine is "Mr. Uber Badass", why didnt he just run upstairs and finish her off hand to hand? Hmm? It would have been far easier and less time consuming to run back upstairs and kill her h2h.
He could not kill her with his hands, so he had to use a truck. He didnt OPT to use a truck, he HAD TO. He had NO CHOICE.
See?
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He could have done it again and/or shot her. EASY.
It wasn't about the drama, just more of a satisfyingly brutal way to kill her, and also, it saved the time of jogging back up: He was in no mood her fu**ing about repeating himself and he was working against the clock.
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At his mercy? Dude, look at what you have resorted to!!! If anything, HE was at HER mercy. And she wasnt KO'd, she was only down for a few seconds. McClaine ****ed up by not making sure she was down for good.
More satisfying? Save the jog? Man.....You had better be kidding, I would hate to have to discount everything you say as absolute bullshit.
Coulda shoulda woulda......he was BEATEN. With the state of the country and Farrell's life in danger, dont you think he would have done the "easy" thing and ran upstairs and pummelled her? If it were me and I knew I could beat her h2h, I wouldnt take the time and effort to use a damn truck.
Come off it, dude. He was PWNED h2h, it's right there in the DVD.
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Twice when? All I saw was her get knocked DOWN, not OUT. If you wanna be anal about it, she knocked him out in return
And let me use my jackhammer to get this through that thick skull of yours.......THERE IS NO TRUCK IN THE HIGH RISE FOR MCCLAINE TO USE.
Get it? Got it? GOOD.
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Look at HOW he killed her. How did he kill her? Did he kill her h2h? NOPE.
hand to HAND, NOT hand to TRUCK....all this shit about SUV's and using cars is bullshit. Let's say we are talking about Boba Fett versus Jango Fett, armor and blasters only. Then I say "Well give Boba the Slave 1 and he owns!!!" See how stupid that is?
If McClaine had never been kicked out the window, if the battle had continued h2h, he would have been killed. She was a superior fighter to him, any idiot can see that.
Both McClaine and she made mistakes. She turned her back on him, assuming he was done. He did the same, he thought she was finished. Look where it got them.
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By your logic, McClaine then beat her, if McClane was "beaten in H2H" because he was tossed out a window (just more credit to his epic resilience), then she clearly lost in H2H when she was "knocked down" first.
Or you can just accept that she gave him all she had, he took it without much trouble and then killed her.
You have no way of knowing that, considering he came back after giving him her all, as told and re-told to you. She was faster, more agile and had fancier moves, look where it got her though, a utility truck in the colon and a one way trip down an elevator shaft.
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Jan 9th, 2009 09:08 PM
At his mercy? 
Twice when? All I saw was her get knocked DOWN, not OUT. If you wanna be anal about it, she knocked him out in return 
