Marv had incredible luck there. If the last cop's machine pistol hadn't jammed, Marv would have been dead.
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Even after that (when Bats got up after knocking him on the floor), Joker attacked Batman with enough force to prevent him from launching a counterattack. He also managed to knock him down and pin him to the ground helplessly. In fact, he could have killed him had he wanted to.
Doubtful, he survived multiple machine gun fire, it stands to reason a pistol round or two wouldn't kill him, unless maybe a head-shot; that's neither here nor there, though.
You do realize that Miller wrote Marv as a nigh-indestructible killing machine on purpose, right?
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Batman fights off dogs while Joker beats him with a lead pipe. Batman knocks Joker away. Batmans sonar cowl thingy goes on the fritz and while he's distracted, Joker shoves Batman into a net and then gets him into a lock him under a plank of some sort
Joker did what he had to to gain the upper hand. If it hadnt been for the knife thingies in Batmans gauntlet, he would have been killed/defeated/whatever.
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And if Batman didnt have all his gadgets and armor Batman would have been killed. Point?
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I'm just saying that all movie characters bring their shit to a fight. Bat brought his armor and gadgets, Joker brought his dogs and a knife. "If this person hadn't had this or that" is bullshit.
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You're missing the direct issue; is Joker a bad-ass fighter or just a sloppy brawler who knows how to wildly swing a pipe and lift his leg for a kick? From what we see in TDK, he's more the sloppy brawler.
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