This is just an idea, and I want this thread to be closed by whatever moderator comes across it, if they think it should be.
Can we stop making threads about Mandrakk or the conceptual Superman for a while? Until a board-wide idea about DC Hierarchy is established, they're just pointless; as it is now, it's just dependent on whether or not you like Grant Morrison.
Maybe this is pointless - and I know I kind of started this with the "Cosmic Superman Versus Lucifer" thread- but honestly, every single thread that includes Morrison Monitors, Monitor-Armor Superman, or Mandrakk is just a bait thread for people who didn't understand or just didn't like Final Crisis to get all pissy over, and people who did like Final Crisis to do the same.
Possibly, this thread could become the thread to actually hash out these ideas and determine exactly how DC cosmology now works; because basically, all of these versus threads are just which writers you like better, and as such, lack any sort of objectivity or, really, any relevant interest or purpose. They're not "versus" threads an more, they're just arguments about which DC writers you prefer- or whether you think Marvel makes better cosmics then DC does. And because of this, they lose purpose, and go beyond what the purview of the Versus forum is supposed to be about; you can't answer these questions or address these ideas with posts like "Mxy owns" or "Thanos with the IG is more powerful" or "Mandrakk curbstomps the Presence."
Anyways, whatever. If any Mods think it's a good idea to maybe work these concepts out in a single thread rather than dozens of pointless battles, then this thread should be open to that idea; if it doesn't belong in the Versus forum, then please move; and if you think it's a pointless thread, then, please, close it.
Thanks everyone.
Last edited by tjcoady on Feb 2nd, 2009 at 03:26 PM
It's also worth noting there's two Mandrakk's: Dax Novu and Ogama. Dax being the one who fought and died against cosmic superman and Ogama being the one the heroes fought in Final crisis 7.
There's no reason to believe the second is as powerful as the first.
Which is sad. There are some who actually base their opinion(s) strictly on showings/evidence, and give a totally unbiased decision regarding the outcome of a versus thread... No matter what company said character(s) might be from.
A dying breed, I guess.
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