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Shinigami Elite vs Team Demons
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This would be a sweet fight to watch. I'd love it.


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Jin seriously is a threat here


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Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
People slower than the characters from Team Demons have been clocked at having faster than millisecond reaction-speed.

And only Shunshui has shown to be that proficient with Flash Steps, with Ukitake and Yamamoto being about equal.

Where did you get that millisecond reaction time from?


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Where did you get that millisecond reaction time from?
Seiryu could throw 100 punches in a single second.

Hiei as a C rank demon, was able to slash him 16 times before he could react to it, and he did so effortlessly.

There are 1,000 milliseconds in a second, and using simple math, Seiryu had 10 millisecond reaction-speed, but Hiei was 16 times faster, so if you divide 10 by 16, you get 0.625 millseconds, so Hiei is at least that fast, probably faster.

Chu in his appearance was shown to be faster than Hiei, and has only gotten better.


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Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Seiryu could throw 100 punches in a single second.

Hiei as a C rank demon, was able to slash him 16 times before he could react to it, and he did so effortlessly.

There are 1,000 milliseconds in a second, and using simple math, Seiryu had 10 millisecond reaction-speed, but Hiei was 16 times faster, so if you divide 10 by 16, you get 0.625 millseconds, so Hiei is at least that fast, probably faster.

Chu in his appearance was shown to be faster than Hiei, and has only gotten better.
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Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Seiryu could throw 100 punches in a single second.

Hiei as a C rank demon, was able to slash him 16 times before he could react to it, and he did so effortlessly.

There are 1,000 milliseconds in a second, and using simple math, Seiryu had 10 millisecond reaction-speed, but Hiei was 16 times faster, so if you divide 10 by 16, you get 0.625 millseconds, so Hiei is at least that fast, probably faster.

Chu in his appearance was shown to be faster than Hiei, and has only gotten better.


Idont ever remember chu being faster than hei at any point in this series he was only a slugger who happens to be able to mold spirit energy in my eyes


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Idont ever remember chu being faster than hei at any point in this series he was only a slugger who happens to be able to mold spirit energy in my eyes
He was able to effortlessly dodge all of Yusuke's attacks and barrage him with his own, he hit him with like 30 different punches and kicks, and all so fast the crowd saw none of it.


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He was able to effortlessly dodge all of Yusuke's attacks and barrage him with his own, he hit him with like 30 different punches and kicks, and all so fast the crowd saw none of it.


most of yusuke's attacks are easily dodgeable and chu didnt hit yusuke wit any combos we couldn't see with our eyes. he was movin fast but not as fast as hiei. yusuke won da fight so chu couldnt been doing all the stuff you said


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most of yusuke's attacks are easily dodgeable and chu didnt hit yusuke wit any combos we couldn't see with our eyes. he was movin fast but not as fast as hiei. yusuke won da fight so chu couldnt been doing all the stuff you said
Most of Yusuke's attacks are NOT easily dodgable(what with him and even Kuwabara being effortless bullet-dodgers), the announcer of the DT played back the scene in slow-motion and it was confirmed that he barraged him with attacks and even in slow-motion he was moving fast. In less than a second, he did all that. He IS faster than Hiei. Chu is even stronger and faster now.

And you are committing a Red Herring fallacy, whether or not Chu won has nothing to do with his feats during the fight.


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Most of Yusuke's attacks are NOT easily dodgable(what with him and even Kuwabara being effortless bullet-dodgers), the announcer of the DT played back the scene in slow-motion and it was confirmed that he barraged him with attacks and even in slow-motion he was moving fast. In less than a second, he did all that. He IS faster than Hiei. Chu is even stronger and faster now.

And you are committing a Red Herring fallacy, whether or not Chu won has nothing to do with his feats during the fight.


you mean when he's drunk his movements aren t as predictable he's not faster than hiei because he never dodge at the last second. spirit gun is easily dodge by all main people at least once or overpowered. he didnt do no 30 punches less than a second if he did he would have won knife edge deathmatch cause all that was is just punching. name one attack of yusuke's that's not dodgable


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Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Most of Yusuke's attacks are NOT easily dodgable(what with him and even Kuwabara being effortless bullet-dodgers), the announcer of the DT played back the scene in slow-motion and it was confirmed that he barraged him with attacks and even in slow-motion he was moving fast. In less than a second, he did all that. He IS faster than Hiei. Chu is even stronger and faster now.

And you are committing a Red Herring fallacy, whether or not Chu won has nothing to do with his feats during the fight.


There is no way hiei is slower than chu. You seem to forget that the spectators were all low class demon who were all pushovers off course they would not have been able to see the punches. But Im pretty sure hiei, kurama and even kuwabara or anyone c level or higher would have seen them


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There is no way hiei is slower than chu. You seem to forget that the spectators were all low class demon who were all pushovers off course they would not have been able to see the punches. But Im pretty sure hiei, kurama and even kuwabara or anyone c level or higher would have seen them

It seems i have made my point


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you mean when he's drunk his movements aren t as predictable he's not faster than hiei because he never dodge at the last second. spirit gun is easily dodge by all main people at least once or overpowered. he didnt do no 30 punches less than a second if he did he would have won knife edge deathmatch cause all that was is just punching. name one attack of yusuke's that's not dodgable
You're an idiot.

He was able to dodge Yusuke's attacks effortlessly by side-stepping each punch.

Why? Why can't Yusuke be as fast? And you forget how during the Knife Edge Deathmatch they were both weakened.

Dodgability is relative.


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There is no way hiei is slower than chu. You seem to forget that the spectators were all low class demon who were all pushovers off course they would not have been able to see the punches. But Im pretty sure hiei, kurama and even kuwabara or anyone c level or higher would have seen them
Forgot about this post.

http://www.onemanga.com/Yu_Yu_Hakusho/58/12/
http://www.onemanga.com/Yu_Yu_Hakusho/58/13/
http://www.onemanga.com/Yu_Yu_Hakusho/58/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/Yu_Yu_Hakusho/58/15/
http://www.onemanga.com/Yu_Yu_Hakusho/58/16/
http://www.onemanga.com/Yu_Yu_Hakusho/58/17/
http://www.onemanga.com/Yu_Yu_Hakusho/58/18/

Hiei in Saint Beast was slower than Chu. Yusuke could keep up with Hiei's speed then, now, a stronger Yusuke could not keep up with Chu's.

Although I was wrong about the camera thing though, was only in anime.

And Chu has gotten stronger, he was a C+ demon, a B- at best, but is now an A+.


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