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They got wasted by terrestrial weapons as weak as pre-WWII era airplane bullets? Pretty sure the human weaponry that took down the Transformers was far more powerful than what took down Kong.


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Nah Just a electric saw'll do.
Or that grenade that took out Starscream.
Even Devastator was taken down by a human terrestrial weapon.

Prime gets ripped apart for he is damageable and Kong is a being of pure damage.


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Nah Just a electric saw'll do.
Or that grenade that took out Starscream.
Even Devastator was taken down by a human terrestrial weapon.

Prime gets ripped apart for he is damageable and Kong is a being of pure damage.


laughing "a being of pure damage"? WTF is that supposed to mean?

Explicitly vulnerable parts that Kong does not know of aside, movieverse Transformers are made of materials tougher than composite tank armor, given their consistently tanking copious air bombardment and modern missiles. Has Kong ever ripped apart composite tank armor? Nah. Indeed, given his weight, Prime would have to be arguably stronger than Kong just to move with the speed and agility he does. Metal beats flesh.

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all glittery obvious resentment aside:

-enforcing your will that prime has full arsenal just turns this into pure spite topic. so prime easily pwns from afar and lolz.

-with only prime's sword/axe allowed its 50/50.

-pure h2h its kong because brute retard strength.


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-enforcing your will that prime has full arsenal just turns this into pure spite topic. so prime easily pwns from afar and lolz.


LOL, read my first post. That's exactly what I said. It's a spite.

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-with only prime's sword/axe allowed its 50/50.


rolling on floor laughing Wut?

No, with Prime's energy sword, he slices Kong's head off. Having a bladed weapon is sort of a big thing.

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-pure h2h its kong because brute retard strength.


True, true. It's not like, Prime made out of futuristic metal, or anything. roll eyes (sarcastic)

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laughing "a being of pure damage"? WTF is that supposed to mean?

Explicitly vulnerable parts that Kong does not know of aside, movieverse Transformers are made of materials tougher than composite tank armor, given their consistently tanking copious air bombardment and modern missiles. Has Kong ever ripped apart composite tank armor? Nah. Indeed, given his weight, Prime would have to be arguably stronger than Kong just to move with the speed and agility he does. Metal beats flesh.


We see TFs taking it in the bot bot via all sorts of impacts, shots from human military and other forms of being attacked and they break/take damage.
Im sure Kong has the ability to bend/dent/snap metal.
70s Kong could just sit down on Prime and accidentally win.


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"furturistic metal" "metal is stronger than evertything".

yup looks like butthurt scripting to go with the gimping.

cry about it and say something else dumb.


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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
We see TFs taking it in the bot bot via all sorts of impacts, shots from human military and other forms of being attacked and they break/take damage.


So what? That Transformers can be damaged by modern heavy weaponry is still better than dying to WW1 biplanes.

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Im sure Kong has the ability to bend/dent/snap metal.


Given the damage they sustain, Transformers are more durable than any modern battle tank. Just being able to snap metal (which King Kong struggled significantly to do with his steel chains) isn't enough.

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"furturistic metal" "metal is stronger than evertything".


Strawman distortion. I never said it's "stronger than everything". I said it's demonstrably tougher than modern tank armor, and, by extension, flesh and blood. roll eyes (sarcastic) It's like you're not even trying.

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again, armor has nothing to do with physical strength.

im truly sorry that you cant understand such a simple concept as that, and hope that medical breakthroughs might eventually fix that for you.


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again, armor has nothing to do with physical strength.


laughing

It has to do with durability, fucinchumps. Let us leave it as a test of your alleged intelligence to deduce how this would matter in a fight.

And you still fail to understand that Optimus Prime, being made out of metal, has to be strong enough to carry his own metallic weight just to stand upright, let alone run and perform acrobatics. Nor do you grasp the concept of metal exoskeletons having an inherently greater load capacity than flesh and bone muscular systems.

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im truly sorry that you cant understand such a simple concept as that, and hope that medical breakthroughs might eventually fix that for you.


Said breakthroughs certainly will not come from the likes of you, who lack the elementary science knowledge and common sense to recognize the obvious advantages of a metal robot over a flesh and blood giant ape.

Oh, and by the way, you had earlier claimed:

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-with only prime's sword/axe allowed its 50/50.


Please, feel free to explain how King Kong will survive close quarters contact with this:

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Try to think back to second grade, to remember the unique properties that metals tend to have over organic material.

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Re: Re: Optimus Prime vs. King Kong

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mmhmm smile

and since no specific film canon was specified and just because winning this thread means way too much to you and your ilk, i present you with the ultimate copout and prime-screwer:

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and what of this? yeah it wasnt a joke. its actually true and prime gets stomped smile

get mad about it. cry more.


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laughing So right after accusing me of rigging the match to Prime's advantage by bringing in his (canon, and built into his body) weaponry, you turn around and bring up the oldest, most exaggerated possible version of Kong you can find? And the double standard doesn't even remotely strike you?

And I find it interesting that you conveniently shift goalposts and run away from actually defending your point, right after you had made a fool out of yourself by dismissing the advantages that a metal robot would have against a flesh and blood ape. It's not only irrational and in bad sport, but also indicative of disturbing emotional immaturity. That you started insulting me by accusing me of having "too much invested" in a debate that I casually just decided to join in 90% of the way through is just Shakespearean levels of ironic fail.



FYI: if you can bring in old versions of Kong, I can easily look back and find the most wanked out, massively powerful incarnations of Optimus Prime put to screen. And there are plenty; he's a space robot from a civilization with FTL travel and sentient AI.

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as you cherrypicked smallest version of kong which you could reference. hypocrite smile

and keep repeating metal because it totally denotes physical strength


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as you cherrypicked smallest version of kong which you could reference.


No, I picked his most recent incarnation, just like I assumed we are referring to Bay's Optimus Prime. I did not go back to cherry pick the most powerful version of Prime just to be a d*ck, but you seem to have no analogous sense of decency.

BTW, do you have any idea how clumsy and slow that version of Kong was? Do you think his enormous size will immunize him from a depleted uranium volley through his skull?



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and keep repeating metal because it totally denotes physical strength


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laughing

It has to do with durability, fucinchumps. Let us leave it as a test of your alleged intelligence to deduce how this would matter in a fight.

And you still fail to understand that Optimus Prime, being made out of metal, has to be strong enough to carry his own metallic weight just to stand upright, let alone run and perform acrobatics. Nor do you grasp the concept of metal exoskeletons having an inherently greater load capacity than flesh and bone muscular systems.

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good so since it was not in the OP that it was 2005 kong exclusively, then its clear that you are being nothing more
than a combative troll...with nothing better to do than dodge the very point that blows your whole argument to pieces. thumb up


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ood so since it was not in the OP that it was 2005 kong exclusively, then its clear that you are being nothing more
than a combative troll...with nothing better to do than dodge the very point that blows your whole argument to pieces. thumb up [/B]


2005 Kong is the latest incarnation. Most people assume that we refer to recent move canon, rather than 70 year old black and white versions. When someone posts "Batman vs. Jason Bourne", we don't take feats from Batman and Robin. roll eyes (sarcastic) And I apply the same standard to Optimus Prime by using his Bay verse.

Meanwhile, your using another version of Kong has no rational basis, no occam's razor to fall to, no matter of obvious target convenience and familiarity. You also fail to demonstrate equivalent fairness, by resorting to Bay-verse Prime.

Oh, and:

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laughing

It has to do with [b]durability, fucinchumps. Let us leave it as a test of your alleged intelligence to deduce how this would matter in a fight.

And you still fail to understand that Optimus Prime, being made out of metal, has to be strong enough to carry his own metallic weight just to stand upright, let alone run and perform acrobatics. Nor do you grasp the concept of metal exoskeletons having an inherently greater load capacity than flesh and bone muscular systems.

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If we're using Kong vs Godzilla Kong, then can't we use animated Optimus? Its hilarious that Chumpy doesn't see the hypocrisy of his own argument. Also, it's hilarious how his argument is dependent on the pictures the OP originally posted (which undoubtedly featured Jackson Kong and Bay Optimus) being unavailable now, which is the only reason he can make his claim that we can use any version of the character. It's.....well...a retard argument.


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If we're using Kong vs Godzilla Kong, then can't we use animated Optimus? Its hilarious that Chumpy doesn't see the hypocrisy of his own argument. Also, it's hilarious how his argument is dependent on the pictures the OP originally posted (which undoubtedly featured Jackson Kong and Bay Optimus) being unavailable now, which is the only reason he can make his claim that we can use any version of the character. It's.....well...a retard argument.


yes we could certainly use animated if you refer to the 1985 movie. the canon of film was not specified.

sorry if my perfectly relevant point sends you into a glittery rage.


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Bullets from a plane cut through just fine wink


A very small projectile with a very small footprint traveling at high speeds pierced Kong's skin. How does that prove that Kong's ribs can be cut?

You're also forgetting or ignoring that large teeth specifically designed to slice through flesh did little more than give Kong a minor flesh wound and did no noticeable damage to his skeletal system. smile

Let us also not forget that Kong's body is durable enough to dead fall 440 meters right onto concrete and not turn into strawberry jelly. Clearly he's ridiculously more durable than just a gorilla, comparatively speaking.


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Really don't understand the "Prime is just stronger" fanboy rants that have peppered this page early on.

2005 Kong's said to weigh 20 to 60 tons.

A Peterbuilt 379 weighs 15-18 tons, depending on various sites. Now we could argue that Prime magically gains mass when he transforms, but that would be silly or that the materials he's made of are heavier than steel cos they're alien, but logically, they could as easily be lighter.

So even going with Kong's lowest rating of 20 tons, he's heavier and would need more strength to move his frame about smile


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