Just saw it for the second time liked it more with this last viewing. Anyone else notice a skull in Rorschachs blood stain in the snow? I don't know why this is getting such negative reviews but I can see how some may not like namely people who have never read the comic or those who think the comic is a sacred text that can never be touched by someone other then Alan Moore, but to each his own.
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Well seeing the movie twice now...i can say its way better than the graphic novel...which i found to be a boring and mind numbing experience.....but the movie was too long,the music was horrible at times, i wonder why this movie was even made..Rorshach was the best element to the movie though....but taste is taste....i cant argue with that....the fact that as a graphic novel..it has such praise....amazes me.
Well, I certainly wouldn't call the comic a sacred text and I would certainly enjoy a good adaption to film. This film was OK, but, really, Snyder isn't a 'visionary' (hell, he hasn't made ANYTHING original, which I'm pretty sure is an essential qualification for 'visionary' status) and it wasn't, to me, a satisfactory transfer from book to film. Sure, the story was there, but it lost much of the meaning, in my mind. At least give it to a director who at least has a chance of understand the story. Moore's a genius. Snyder is clearly not.
Though, to be honest, I'm perfectly happy with the comic. I see no reason why everything great that's ever been written automatically must be turned into a film. Clearly Moore's work is, while perhaps not impossible to adapt to film, damn hard to adapt- no one's really done it successfully yet (but I guess they're getting closer- Watchmen's miles ahead of V for Vendetta). I just can't see why they can't make films, if they must steal others' ideas, from comics/ books that are more easily transferred to another medium.
So, yeah, maybe I do fall into the 'sacred test/ Moore= God' category...
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What were some of your guys favorite quotes from the movie or novel?
Mine was "Never compromise not even in the face of Armageddon." Truly shows Rorschachs commitment to punish evil.
Man, they ****ed that quote up in the film. It worked much better in the book, in my opinion. It felt much more dramatic when he said: "Not even in the face of Armageddon... never compromise"
But Watchmen is full of loads of great quotes. The Rorschach/ Big Figure scenes were pretty great, for example ("Small world", "fat chance", etc). In fact, Rorschach was just great all 'round.
The best, in my opinion, however, was Jon's line right at the end:
"Nothing ever ends."
****... they gave that line to ****ing Laurie in the film...
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I actually didn't mind the use of "All Along the Watchtower." I thought it was kind of cool, in a strange way. "Hallelujah" during the sex scene was just a poor decision though. The way he handled that sex scene may have been a poor decision all around though.
Watchmen sucked! Cinematicaly it was a bad movie. I thought it was to drawn out and too long. If you think about it, Zack Snyder really didn't do anything. If he followed the book almost exactly page for page, panel for panel, then all the credit should go to Alan Moore. But come on Synder, show me some artistic talent and do something different. Just because it follows the graphic novel exactly, doesn't make it a great movie. I am a comic book fan, but because a film is based off of a comic book doesn't mean it has to be exact! As long as the characters stay true to the source, then I'm fine with whatever liberties the director takes with the story. Everybody loves The Dark Knight right? Is it exactly like the comic?... No. But why was is it good. Because Christopher Nolan used his artistic talents as a director, he made sure the characters were as close as possible to the original source, and told his version of The Dark Knight! That is a great director, That is how films are supposed to be made! To end... Watchmen Sucked!!!
Moore denounced all credit for any of his films after 'From Hell' and 'League of Extraordinary Men' were made. He didn't want any credit for it. The artist who drew Watchmen got all the royalties instead.
Also, I'm starting to see something here. The amount of people disliking Watchmen and those who like it, I reckon it'll become a cult classic, like the Rocky Horror Picture Show or something.
To reiterate Kevin Smith's sentiments, Zack Snyder was ****ed either way. This thread is living proof of that, fans are either pissed because it was "too faithful" or they're pissed because there were "too many changes" or because it's "not faithful enough." Really, I'm glad Zack Snyder made this film, because it took balls and after 300, he could pretty much do any movie he wanted and he chose Watchmen. Overall I just think that Snyder's Watchmen was the best adaptation anyone could ask for, especially compared to Moore's previous adaptations, which are mostly travesties. I mean honestly, think about how shitty this movie could've been and be thankful we got the film we did. I don't understand why people are bitching to the extent they are, but at the same time, I saw it coming.
At least Watchmen didn't totally twist it's message like V for Vendetta. I hated the way the V movie was changed from Anarchistic values to American Democracy-based values. So redicluous.
That's true. I was going more for the idea that, while being a film that is far from great, it would be hailed by a bunch of politically-naive, clueless people (I'm being careful not to say teenagers, there) who think it's a work (to quote an IMDB reviewer) of "monumental genius".
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Oh yeah, that was totally true of V for Vendetta, I can see that happening to Watchmen easily as well. Kind of a shame, because even though I in no way think it's one of the greatest movies ever made, I still think it's a great movie, simply because of how faithfully it was adapted (I've been a massive fan of the graphic novel for ages). But I reckon that's lost on the simpler minded watchers who just think it's 'awesome' because of the effects and the scraps of the message they pick up from it and whatnot.
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