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KingD19
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In the movie Superman hasn't really gone up against anything threatening to anyone with any level of super strength and endurance, except Zod, his flunkies, and Kryptonite. In the newest movie some guy shot hot lead into his chest with a minigun for a minute or so, Hancock could have take that just as easily.

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In the movie Superman hasn't really gone up against anything threatening to anyone with any level of super strength and endurance, except Zod, his flunkies, and Kryptonite. In the newest movie some guy shot hot lead into his chest with a minigun for a minute or so, Hancock could have take that just as easily.

its comic superman what dont you get about it. He said superman he means comic one, unless specified we always use comic versions


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You don't understand, you can't compare a comic with years behind it's belt, to a single movie. While it's unfair either way, it's better to compare the newest, or even all the Superman movies against Hancock. That's like putting the movie X-Men against the comic X-Men, it's not fair, get it yet?

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You don't understand, you can't compare a comic with years behind it's belt, to a single movie. While it's unfair either way, it's better to compare the newest, or even all the Superman movies against Hancock. That's like putting the movie X-Men against the comic X-Men, it's not fair, get it yet?
doesn't matter the thread isnt about movie superman it's comic superman. So that doesn't apply, the thread isn't movie superman


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Well that's not 100%, this is a Superman thread, where movie Superman and Comic Superman can be used, since they discuss the movie superman here too. So unless the thread starter states it's comic Superman, then I say it's movie Superman.

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Well that's not 100%, this is a Superman thread, where movie Superman and Comic Superman can be used, since they discuss the movie superman here too. So unless the thread starter states it's comic Superman, then I say it's movie Superman.

its the comic forum. and it's always comic as standard here. You have to specify for movie not comics


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Well that's not 100%, this is a Superman thread, where movie Superman and Comic Superman can be used, since they discuss the movie superman here too. So unless the thread starter states it's comic Superman, then I say it's movie Superman.


Ive already quoted this before.. Superman (any type) vs Hancock.
I started the thread for all the people who say Hancock could beat Superman which i believe is untrue

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if everyone agrees comic superman would win, why continue debating him at all. Movie vs. Movie, Hancock should win seeing as superman pulls his punches and Hancock doesnt really,

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doesn't matter the thread isnt about movie superman it's comic superman. So that doesn't apply, the thread isn't movie superman


He didn't say anything about comic book superman, he said SUPERMAN!!!!!!! So he can be talking about comic and movie.. If he was just talking about comic superman vs hancock wouldn't really make sence because hancock doesn't have a comic

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superman in the comics was a god during the pre-crisis times. DC had to invent an event that threatened the universe to dial that power down. comic book superman would make compost out of hancock. this is undeniable. having said that, superman's feat in "returns" can be summarized as catching a crashing plane, traveling fast around the globe, lifting a boat, lifting an island and stopping a bullet with his eyeball. seems like crap display of superman's abilities.. however, hancock lifted an escalade and drew a heart on the moon.. you do the math...


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superman in the comics was a god during the pre-crisis times. DC had to invent an event that threatened the universe to dial that power down. comic book superman would make compost out of hancock. this is undeniable. having said that, superman's feat in "returns" can be summarized as catching a crashing plane, traveling fast around the globe, lifting a boat, lifting an island and stopping a bullet with his eyeball. seems like crap display of superman's abilities.. however, hancock lifted an escalade and drew a heart on the moon.. you do the math...


Well hancock also stoped bullets when he got shot like 20 times in the face, threw a big a** whale into the ocean, stoped a train just buy standing on the tracks, and more. I know that doesnt compare to the stuff that superman has did since super man has comics and like 4 movies. But if there is gonna be a hancock 2 I believe we will see him do a lot more amazing things.

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Seriously i dont think in any universe they would allow Hancock to be more powerful then Superman, Hancock is a rip off of Superman.


Defend how he is a rip off of Superman.


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Defend how he is a rip off of Superman.


Ive already said it somewhere. Super strength, Super speed, Flight, invulnerability and something that makes him lose his powers.

Something that i dont like about Hancock is that,, if they are so powerful (even powerful enough to be against superman). Why did it only take a couple hundred metres away from the girl for him to regain his powers.. If their kind is so superior wouldnt they be feeling each others power from like galaxies away.
Im talking if this guy can actually beat superman. I highly doubt it tho.

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You only lose your powers when you're close to another of your kind, similar to how Superman only gets weak when he's close to kryptonite.

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You only lose your powers when you're close to another of your kind, similar to how Superman only gets weak when he's close to kryptonite.


point takin

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Ive already said it somewhere. Super strength, Super speed, Flight, invulnerability and something that makes him lose his powers.

Something that i dont like about Hancock is that,, if they are so powerful (even powerful enough to be against superman). Why did it only take a couple hundred metres away from the girl for him to regain his powers.. If their kind is so superior wouldnt they be feeling each others power from like galaxies away.
Im talking if this guy can actually beat superman. I highly doubt it tho.


Thats a pretty weak argument there. A lot of people have super strength, flight and durability. Claiming that he is a rip off because he has a weakness is just plain retarded. If you want to get technical then Superman ripped off Captain Marvel. Superman couldn't fly at first and he really wasn't super strong at all. IIRC he used to struggle with lifting a car. When creating a super hero those are 5 of the staple abilities to give one.

He doesn't fly like Supes, nor does he have a cape, HV, he is amnesiac, not an alien, etc. A lot of heroes have those 5 stated abilities and they are not Supes rip offs. Please try to make a better case on how he is a rip off.


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You are correct Phoenix, and while Hancock isn't an alien, he is an artificially created, or some type of being like that.

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Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Thats a pretty weak argument there. A lot of people have super strength, flight and durability. Claiming that he is a rip off because he has a weakness is just plain retarded. If you want to get technical then Superman ripped off Captain Marvel. Superman couldn't fly at first and he really wasn't super strong at all. IIRC he used to struggle with lifting a car. When creating a super hero those are 5 of the staple abilities to give one.

He doesn't fly like Supes, nor does he have a cape, HV, he is amnesiac, not an alien, etc. A lot of heroes have those 5 stated abilities and they are not Supes rip offs. Please try to make a better case on how he is a rip off.


How can something being the first rip off something else.. doesnt make sense.. and when was this? superman couldnt fly at first?

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Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Thats a pretty weak argument there. A lot of people have super strength, flight and durability. Claiming that he is a rip off because he has a weakness is just plain retarded. If you want to get technical then Superman ripped off Captain Marvel. Superman couldn't fly at first and he really wasn't super strong at all. IIRC he used to struggle with lifting a car. When creating a super hero those are 5 of the staple abilities to give one.

He doesn't fly like Supes, nor does he have a cape, HV, he is amnesiac, not an alien, etc. A lot of heroes have those 5 stated abilities and they are not Supes rip offs. Please try to make a better case on how he is a rip off.


That's what I tried telling him before but I don't think he will ever get it. You made very good points

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Actually, Supes was created in 1932, Marvel followed a few years after, 1939, however, when Superman was first created, it took him a good amount of struggle to get a car over his head. And the whole, leap tall buildings in a single bound, that was because he couldn't fly at the time. Notice they dropped it once he could fly.

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