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King Vegeta vs. Bardock
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Estacado
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On Planet Vegeta this symbol means hope.

On Earth it means Goku Man.

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Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Isn't that flashback just anime filler though?
Oh it's definitely non-canon filler. It's right up there with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnqtg0bte6w&t=0m39s

Canonically it took Saiyan saga Vegeta's absolute most powerful attack to destroy a single planet, and canonically Vegeta had already surpassed his father when he was just a kid:
https://i.imgur.com/hoTAySQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eIMjQHL.jpg
(iirc, KV's PL was ~10,000, which means Vegeta's PL was almost 2x his by the Saiyan saga.)

So yeah, the idea that KV could casually triple-planet-bust is absurdly nonsensical from a canonicity POV. The scene itself looks badass, though. thumb up

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Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
True, old Bardock did have a manga appearance with the Planet Vegeta flashback, but it's retconned now by the new one/DB Minus manga. Hackiyama doesn't give a shit and ****s around with continuity as he sees fit.

Even if you never considered most of the Bardock movie special canon, him dying a warrior's death against Frieza along with his planet is still preferable to well, what we have now. Even Frieza getting triggered when he first saw Goku on Namek at the realization he was Bardock's son means pretty much nothing now because of the retcon.
Not sure why you think Bardock's death in the original movie special has necessarily been retconned by Minus..?

I mean, Minus doesn't show us Bardock's fate one way or the other. For all we know, he still does make some sort of heroic last stand against Freeza. /shrug


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Well going by the 2nd Broly trailer, I thought the new Bardock just dies with Gine after he sees Goku off? I thought that was the whole “emotional moment”, rather than him going down fighting. Maybe I presumed too much but is what it looked like. If he does still have a heroic last moment against Frieza though, then glad to have been wrong.


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I hope so too.

Really want Tori to give Bardock *some* iota of respect... I'll be shocked if he does, though.


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I hope so too.

Really want Tori to give Bardock *some* iota of respect... I'll be shocked if he does, though.
Toriyama used to love the original Bardock concept.


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