Lucy and Holly being compared to Victoria and the S African chick is crazy.
Lucy and Holly were being held by terrorists who aimed to keep them alive for a certain period of time, giving McClane a window of oppurtunity to save them.
Victoria and the S African nipple chick, well, they were killed by accident (Victoria) and for their betrayal (S African chick.)
Riggs had no chance to save them. If he had had the chance McClane did, they'd still be alive. If Riggs KNEW that they were in danger (As McClane KNEW Lucy and Holly were, and NO he didn't figure this out on his own, it was shown to him), they would never have died.
Again, McClane relied on his LUCK here more than his SKILL. Riggs has more SKILL as a police officer and a h2h combatant. McClane, without his luck, is nothing more than a beat cop who can take a beating.
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Hardly, I just put it in perspective in a totally objective fashion.
And for the record, I'd rather be a Riggs nutswinger than a McClane knob jobber.
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Last edited by Rogue Jedi on Apr 1st, 2009 at 01:53 PM
Sorry, homie. I hate to butt in on this brilliant discussion but i just cant be contained. That's Bullshit, nigga!!!! You know as well as everyone else that McClane is about as smooth as they come. Don't be hatin on McClane when dumb mother fukers do shit they're not supposed to. Remember, McClane never once had to do anything in the first place. By putting himself in harms way...,WAY beyond the realms of his obligation he saves dozens and hundreds of lives at a time. Yeah, some buildings get fuked up, but shiit, He wasn't even supposed to be there that day
The two knuckle heads in lethal weapon stay wreckin shiit, on and off the job
Seriously, i didn't mean to step in on the conversation just to shit on you but you were takin low blows, man...,admit it.
Feel free puke all over my face next time i'm in the middle of a cineBattle, here.
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Nah its cool. I was actually LOLing when the argument of sloppiness came up. As if that makes any difference here. Hell, I could argue that McClane was sloppy for not being a better father to Holly, but how dumb an argument is that?
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By the way objective means unbiased. And since you conveniantly overlook that fact that the only reason Kensit got bumped off, is for SOMETHING THAT RIGGS DID. IE Shagging her, that makes your assessment blindly biased.
So either way, it would be utter Riggs' nut-swingery and ass harrassment of the lowest order to deny that Rigg's actions lead to both their deaths..
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Last edited by Sadako of Girth on Apr 2nd, 2009 at 07:24 PM
She chose to sleep with Riggs, it takes two to tango, you know. She knew the guys she worked for and that the LAPD was investigating them. She rolled the dice and lost. Even if Riggs hadn't told her not to go back to work there, she wouldn't have gone. Either way, she would have ended up dead. Even if she and Riggs had never hooked up in the supermarket, she would have gone to the LAPD eventually. And at that point she would have ended up dead.
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I guess her boss had a different idea about what version of the Tango rule was in force....
Nope I disagree: Its played out like Riggs was the instigating factor in her descision.
This is evidenced by the fact that she was still working for them when she met Riggs. But anyways, its all speculation.
So once again we a re forced to go by what is on screen, and that was "she was killed for going with Riggs".
Well the only reason that the dutch chick got killed was that Riggs failed to catch the guys he was after before they attempted to kill him, successfully killing Victoria. His sloppiness in not concluding that investigation lead to them later killing the Dutch chick after she went off with/shagged Riggs.
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Last edited by Sadako of Girth on Apr 3rd, 2009 at 01:05 PM
"There are many things I dont like about my boss, but I like my job very much."
Guess that line is open for interpretation, but to me it says "I am looking for a way out." Riggs just happened to be that way, if it hadnt been him, another way would have presented itself, and they would have killed her just the same.
I know I have Die Hard on my profile. I have told you several times I like McClane as a character more than I like Riggs. But just because I like a character more doesnt mean I am gonna say he wins in a lopsided battle.
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Apr 1st, 2009 02:58 AM
You know as well as everyone else that McClane is about as smooth as they come. Don't be hatin on McClane when dumb mother fukers do shit they're not supposed to. Remember, McClane never once had to do anything in the first place. By putting himself in harms way...,WAY beyond the realms of his obligation he saves dozens and hundreds of lives at a time. Yeah, some buildings get fuked up, but shiit, He wasn't even supposed to be there that day 
I'd love to hear this.
