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Originally posted by darthgoober
All that stuff(or comparible feats to that stuff) can also be said of Surfer. So shouldn't the same standard be applied to all the characters involved? If we say that it doesn't make sense for BRB to be put down like that by Surfer due to Thor's past feats of durability, shouldn't Surfer be given the same consideration in regards to Blood and Thunder? If we compared durability feats between Surfer and Thor, Surfer would come out ahead.

But you're working off an assumption, and no one assumption is better than another. People could just as easily assume that any off panel action was nothing other than Surfer dominating Bill with ease, and there'd be no more evidence to support your theory than there is to support theirs.

I think 7-8/10 for Surfer seems more likely since I'd give him 6/10 over Thor.

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Originally posted by Firestorms
the old Surfer was a hippe pacifist

There was a comic where Rhino was beating on him for about 4-5 pages and Surfer did nothing

What held Surfer back was his peaceful attitude, not his powers. Surfer if he wanted to could open up a blackhole in Thor's head and be done with him.
The new Surfer with no speed, no flight, no powers almost kills World War Hulk and all his warbound pals.
The new Surfer is far more dangerous because he's been given an attitude readjustment