I'm remembering this X-Files eppisode where Moulder (?) is trapped in this fungus that is kilometers in size, which sends him into crazy hallucination world.
lol, has anyone seen requiem for a dream?
__________________ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
no1 can say without a doubt. but the question is, what is the difference between a dream and reality if every facet of what you consider REAL {including the existance of other self aware/concious individuals like yourself in your surrounding} exists in both either way. there are no differences between the two UNLESS it is YOU who is dreaming everything up, instead of you being a part of sum1 else's dream}
Who gives a shit? The world you percieve to interact with is your reality,and as your consciousness is the only one you can guarantee exists, it's reality is the only reality.
however, one cannot know their own consciousness exists
__________________ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
I have no evidence the computer I am sitting at is not a byproduct of some "brain-in-vat" type scenario, let alone that you are a thinking and acting individual.
Also, you haven't even began to address my point. Sure, one can affirm to themselves that they exist, but what is it that is doing the affirming, and what is it really that is being affirmed.
The conscious "you" does not have a discernible place in the brain, and can be broken down into millions of component parts. Consciousness may in fact by an illusion based upon the action of millions of interconnected cells. You, in fact, might not actually be you, but rather a community of single celled organisms reacting to incoming stimuli.
__________________ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
EDIT: And I'm serious for a minute: Why would you post on a discussion forum if you are clearly uninterested in discussing things?
__________________ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
lol, I mean, I guess "who am I to question anyone", but I always figured people spent their time posting in and reading the forum because they wanted some back and forth over ideas.
Its disheartening to see someone just come back with "so there, I'm going to put my fingers in my ears"
__________________ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
that was a part of the surprise, I guess. I'm sure we are all guilty of dismissing others' points from time to time, but the philosophy forum has low enough traffic that normally you can assume people would rather post huge amounts of crap back and forth than just want to make their point.
I blame the education system, and will now waste 8000 characters writing an essay specifically for forum consumption about the matter, and maybe get pissed about the issue in totally non-related threads, lol indeed!
__________________ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
your lips say jk, but I know in your heart, it is tl:dr
__________________ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
__________________ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
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Apr 15th, 2009 01:54 AM
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