meh, corruption is really only relative to whichever position is privileged as good. In this case, ignorance apparently.
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Bardock42 is a whimpering pussy now who lost his flare to debate vigorously and just spouts senseless and thinly veiled puns here and there. You nazi pr*ck. Get your balls back from whoever you sold them to, you fat f*ck. What happened to the manly, chubby German big mouth we once knew, who'd flatten ignorance with a solid argument? Now it's like Andy Dick meets John Candy. You hybrid beefcake. Suck my c*ck
unless you want to go with the veiled sexual reference about fitting the "dark" in somewhere...
Though, where was post-modernism in Star Wars?
I don't see the circle...
evil people gain power and intelligence, good people stay dumb and weak?
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No. All people are both good and evil.
Power allows people to follow an evil path. This becomes apparent to the common people who then do not trust the powerful. In turn they begin to truth the people out of power, and then replace the corrupted people in power with the non-corrupt people. In time these new people become corrupt, and the cycle begins again.
Just look at the French revolution.
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A power vacuum was filled by those most willing to do the most barbaric things?
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thats my thought on his remark about the French revolution
all revolutions play out differently, but I suspect that it is corrupt people who are able to best exploit a power vacuum for their own ends.
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I didn't really see the back and forth we could have.I'm not going to sit here and try to argue what a consciosness is with you,because frankly the ignorance you've been discussing means i already have my own definition,and as my own personal philosophy shows I'll stick by my definition,rather then deal with a bunch of hypotheticals that would fail to dissuade me from belives,because they'd have to make me doubt my own consciousness,and thus all of existence,which frankly i feel is beyond you.
The French were forced to get back in sink with the rest of the world to get back in line with what works.
I just love the story of the French Revolution. They looked at the New World and tried it for themselves, but didn't do it quite right and it back fired on em. They became evil, blood thirsty and revelers. They changed the laws and even went so far as to change the calender because it was based on religion and the institutions that they hated., But they did make a point. Pinned up atrocities made a very good point.
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"I" is an illusion, a symbolic construct for convenient reference in a society of like beings. Spend some time trying to quiet your mental chatter; you won't be able to because "I" has no substance therefore no real control (not that any of us do, please note). What you'll notice instead is a loosely organized collective of "agents" (for lack of a better word), each with its own agenda, will, inner dialogue and emotion-set, all together masquerading as a singular "I."
"I exist" would be more correctly stated as "The illusion of 'I' exists."
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why do you assume I want to convince you of anything. I'm interested in the discussion. It would be really boring if everyone just agreed with me.
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