Apparently you forgot to attend reading class...you know, the art of deciphering symbols such as "USA vs Roman Empire IN A WAR" or "Who wins (be serious)"
WE MUST IMPROVE OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I lived in Canada growing up for 5 years in Toronto.
__________________ Introduce a little government. Upset the established gangs, and everything becomes order...
Democracy is the very definition of awesome.
Indeed, the education system must become better. Comparing an army from more than 2000 years ago to a state-of-the-art army that posesses nukes and still having to ask who would win, shows a considerable lack of any IQ-points from the one asking the question.
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Do you realize the U.S. military could win any war within a day if we just dropped a few nukes. Iraq would be nothin' but a wasteland if we did that right now. The only reason we don't is for obvious reasons...to protect innocent civilian lives.
Also, if the U.S. exercised "total war" protocols...all the insurgents would've been killed or retreated out of the country by now.
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not understanding this is why you are in Iraq in the first place
__________________ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
Really? We haven't nuked them, so how could you know it wouldn't defeat them? Besides, if we nuked the entire region...and held security perimeters to quarantine the entire country...they would all die from radiation sickness. Trust me...if the U.S. really wanted to go on genocidal campaign...this war would have been finished a long time ago....but, damn the mandates of the Geneva Convention.
__________________ "What hurts the most is bein' so close, and havin' so much to say, and watchin' you walk away. And never knowin' what could've been, and not seein' that lovin' you is what I was tryin' to do."
so, in your opinion, extreme force is likely to create less extremists?
and while your scenario is childishly interesting, it is incorrect. America could not do that. why? MAD. Russia and China have way more pull in the middle east than America does.
And seriously, you can't occupy Iraq or cover some mountains in Pakistan. You are going to "quarantine" everything from The Western Coast of Africa to the Philippines?
__________________ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
No one said anything about the entire Islamic world...I'm only referring to Iraq. What I said is that it "could" be done through extreme measures. Hell, an all out nuclear attack, followed by a nuclear winter would decimate nearly all life in that part of the world...what don't you understand about that???
Again, I didn't say America "would" do that....I'm sayin' that it "could" happen if we didn't care about collateral damage.
__________________ "What hurts the most is bein' so close, and havin' so much to say, and watchin' you walk away. And never knowin' what could've been, and not seein' that lovin' you is what I was tryin' to do."
Also, you totally don't understand your enemy. They aren't the Iraqis, they are autonomous groups who currently operate and recruit in Iraq. If you turned Iraq into a wasteland, they wouldn't stay, and no, you couldn't keep them in, as you can't keep them out from Lebanon and Iran now.
However, that ignores that such action in Iraq would make the Iraqi insurgents the least of the American's concerns, as it would literally be the genesis of the next generation of terror.
Wait, you do know that it was unnecessarily violent bombings in Lebanon that initially radicalized the current Al Qaeda leadership, yes? You realize that American violence creates the people you are trying to kill?
Or the survival of the American Empire
__________________ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
Listen, I totally agree with what you are saying. I'm just stating a "possibility" to end Islamic terror threats. With just our nuclear stockpile alone, it would be enough to wipe out the Islamic region entirely.
The reason insurgents travel freely through those borders is because a real effort isn't made to keep them in or out. If a nation, like America, was hell bent on destroying the Islamic world...it could happen...even at the expense of our "status" in the eyes of the world. Sure, it would cause WWIII due to the intervention of Russia and China...which would just make it worse on the Islamic region as a whole..especially if there is a nuclear exchange with those countries in those Islamic regions. Based on that, I fail to see how many isurgents could survive....including surviving the radioactive fallout afterwards.
Getting back to what I mentioned earlier concerning border security. If the U.S. commited more manpower to border security...they could contain the insurgents travel between borders. In this case..I'm only referring to Iraq. We wouldn't have enough manpower to commit to the security of every border within the Islamic world as a whole.
In any event, we're going to disagree on this matter. So, the best thing to do is agree to disagree. Besides, we're going off topic from the subject of this thread.
__________________ "What hurts the most is bein' so close, and havin' so much to say, and watchin' you walk away. And never knowin' what could've been, and not seein' that lovin' you is what I was tryin' to do."
__________________ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
Then the Roman Empire comes back from the shadow and the 15 that voted for them ended up being right.
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I was talking about the 15 that voted for Rome
Jul 16th, 2009 04:35 PM
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