I keep comming across this battle in other forums and i think its good fight. im not sure who would win but thats for you guys argue about.
i want to know what you guys have to say about this battle.btw its perfect cell.
Broly, no effort on his part either. Cell couldn't deal with SSJ2 Goku or Gohan, Broly whooped on basically everybody who came his way. And it took Goku drawing everyones power to stop him.
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Broly goes LSS, pounds Cell worse than he did to Goku in movie 8 (when Broly made his debut), toss him into the sky, and then blow him up along with the rest of the planet.
Goku was never SSJ2 in his encounters with Cell , and Cell actually did even the odds for himself when he learned Instant Transmission and grew stronger because of the Saiyan cells within him (upon returning to earth after he self-destructed on King Kai's planet), thus becoming "Super Perfect Cell".
Super Perfect against Broly would be a more interesting fight even though Broly would likely win that too, but since it's just Perfect Cell according to the thread author, Broly wins even more easily.
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Perfect Cell got owned by Gohan when he went SSJ2. Broly's LSSJ puts him at a level at least equal to that of an SSJ2 imo.
Perfect cell goes down even faster than he did against Gohan.
The only place he stands a chance are in games like DBZ Tenkaichi 3.
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If LSSJ Broly is only around being equal to that of a SSJ2 (that's a big if), then Super Perfect Cell would probably fight pretty evenly with him. I'm speaking of the Cell with the SSJ2-like aura that instantly killed Trunks and rendered one of Gohan's arms useless.
I'm going to have to agree with BS. Broly is faster than the hyperbolically trained Z warriors WHILE being in a form that looks like ultimate supersaiyan form...but with more raw power and KI.
Hmm.
I would say that fully powered Broly could take out Cell on the grounds that he is the Ultimate form of a supersaiyan, while being faster than any of the Z warriors...and having much more Ki. That would put him on level or higher than Cell in speed, buch much stronger than cell.
It certainly puts him above any of the intermediate forms seen in the series (Unless you are implying that it might be higher than SSJ2, it is called Legendary and is hyped up a lot)
He'd fight evenly for a while, Broly in LSSJ gets more powerful (with no apparent limit) as the fight goes on, in other words, if they're equal, Broly has more endurance, and will eventually win.
Plus, it's Perfect, not Super Perfect that is in this fight .
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Yeah, that's what I was implying. I'm aware it's hyped up a lot, but meh. Can't really be helped. Don't like Broly much myself to be honest, not that it changes anything here.
True. Just sayin', Super Perfect would make things more fair in this case.
And is Cell allowed to spawn Cell Juniors to assist him in the fight? Thread author didn't specify on that.
Ahh, okay then. His attitude and disposition suck and all, but he owned Goku & Co. more easily than any other villain imo.
Perhaps a Super Perfect vs. LSSJ Broly thread should be made then. This one's almost spite, if not outright spite.
Dunno. He most likely would, to make Broly focus his attention on something else. Though in most cases, those guys will be stomped easily.
Meh, I was talking about Perfect Cell.
Sure, 2nd could destroy, he's one of the cheapest characters in the game. Though if Broly has a potara that gives him a brick effect (if he doesn't already have one against 2nd Cell), the match is pretty much Broly's.
2nd won't be able to land a throw properly, and Broly could just block the rush.
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That last part can be argued, but I see your point nonetheless.
Indeed.
1. Cell summons some Cell Juniors and/or uses Solar Flare on Broly to distract him for a bit.
2. Powers up to use some super finishing move, like the Spirit Bomb.
3. ????
4. Profit!
That's assuming it's Super Perfect (who can also use Instant Transmission for evasive maneuvers in addition, if need be), because if it were regular Perfect Cell, nothing he tries against Broly would make a difference really.
Might be picking at straws here, but if it's Super Perfect that summons them, they would probably be stronger than the ones Gohan destroyed and would have SSJ2-like auras around them and stuff.
Either way, one of them Cell Juniors during the Cell Games did cancel out Vegeta's Final Flash with relative ease, so that has to count for something.
I never really use 2nd form Cell since I have the opportunity to transform again in most cases. How is he cheap exactly?
True, but they were in the super forms. Except for Buu and maybe Cell, I don't think anyone else came close to owning them the way Broly did. Buu probably surpassed him, now that I look back.
Good enough.
We could all come up with tactics that each could use.
Also, Cell used Spirit Bomb? If so, I don't think it'll be as powerful as the ones Goku uses given that he needs energy from others. Also, doesn't having an impure heart or something to that extent stop you from using Spirit Bomb?
True about Perfect. He still has that desperation move though.
Dude, stop bringing up Super Perfect Cell here . Until the thread creator changes the version, you are forbidden from bringing him up
True, but seeing how easily Gohan took them out when pissed...
Broly is pretty much always pissed, especially if Goku is around.
His throw -> Second normal Blast 2. Cheapest combo since it drains the opponent's health and gives him health. Combine that with a quick Ki Recharge potara and a Super Up potara, and you've got a huge advantage.
Only Syn Shenron's Blazing Storm (His normal Blast 2 where he shoots out this huge wave from his right hand, not Trap Shooter. Not sure about the name) is more cheaper if used correctly.
The only real reason you'd want to use Perfect over 2nd form is his multiple death beam and perhaps the health boost. Otherwise, you're better off with 2nd, or Super Perfect.
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Canonically, no, but it is one of his moves. He claimed to have known the move himself in the series, and has always been one of his special attacks in most of the video games.
Depends on where they're fighting then. I guess the only reason the Spirit Bomb on Namek didn't kill Frieza was because Frieza had already killed pretty much all of the planet's inhabitants, so there was hardly much of anything for Goku to gather energy from.
It only stops you from bouncing it back if it's about to come at you or somethin'. You can still start/produce a Spirit Bomb even if you're evil though, just you'll have to get out of the way if it's deflected back at you, which Cell can do easily enough given that he has Instant Transmission.
The thing where he blows himself up? Broly would probably just use that shield/barrier that he used to defend himself from Frieza's Death Ball that destroy Planet Vegeta when he was an infant.
However, seeing as how Cell somehow gained more of Goku's cells after he self-destructed on King Kai's planet (thus allowing him to learn Instant Transmission), Cell could probably gain some of Broly's cells the same way. If so, that's bad news for the legendary super saiyan.
Fine.
Well, it wasn't specified by the author as to whether Goku would be around during this particular fight or not, so I'm just gonna gather that he's not. Otherwise, Broly would probably ignore Cell and only go after Goku... because he made him cry as a baby.
Words and actions are two very different things (not going by video games since they aren't source material)...Still, he could have it, he learnt the Kamehameha iirc.
I thought it was more of a receive factor, since Goku had to ask people to give him energy. I don't think people are going to give Cell energy, considering his personality.
I see. Ahh well, my mistake, read about SSJ Goku not being able to use SB at one time since SSJ was malicious or something like that.
True, but Goku couldn't shield himself, unlike Broly who could, he wouldn't lose any cells with that kind of a shield.
Though, have to agree, if he gained Broly's Cells, he'd most likely reach a completely new level, perhaps one that could challenge Vegito.
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Even then, Broly's pretty much pissed off anyways , Goku being around just takes it to a new level. Can't blame him for hating Goku though, a baby crying non-stop like he did, enough to drive anyone crazy.
Indeed. Anyone you are playing against will most likely just forfeit anyway, unless they are good enough to counter, which is the only way to consistently stop that tactic.
Though it's great against the CPU .
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I always rated Brolly Power between SSJ2 and SSj3. Because the way he beat on Gohan in the second apperance made no type of sense. Even if Gohan gotten weaker he should have been able to do more. Even then it took Goku Gohan Trunks and Goten to to push brolly back. Im sorry but Broly is way stronger than a mere SSJ2.
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, and Cell actually did even the odds for himself when he learned Instant Transmission and grew stronger because of the Saiyan cells within him (upon returning to earth after he self-destructed on King Kai's planet), thus becoming "Super Perfect Cell".
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