Hard to call. The links dont really tell much. Yea, Lifter can make things light and pick them up and toss, but how far? When he lets them go, do they instantly turn back to the original weight? Reading his appearances on the link posted, he seems like a jobber. As far as Rage goes, how strong is he exactly? Feats?
Where is it stated that Rage starts out at 75cl? True, noone knows how strong lifter is, but there has been things hes lifted. What lifting feats does Rage have?
Yea, that's the 2005 Avengers handbook iirc. The Master Edition has him at Class 90 which is 75-90 tons. So he's got a pretty good strength edge to start and he's going to get stronger also.
Both of these guys got embarassed by Professor Hulk. But Rage did slap She-Hulk around once and he beat Namrita once also iirc.
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The master edition is outdated and list things from 1990-1993. We dont know his current baseline strength, but even if it(baseline strength) were 75-90, a hit would only make Guido Stronger.
Guido also one shotted Warpath(back when he was 75cl+) after taking a hit from him.
Like I said, Rage is like a black Hulk, he gets stronger, the angrier he gets. So, he get's stronger, Guido gets stronger, the only diffference is, Guido is only stronger for 2 minutes. And if he gets strong enough, there's the possibility that Rage will overload him.
Naturally, noone is going to use their full strength when starting off the fight, so its only right to say that the more one gets angry, the stronger they get or the more strength they use. Rage is like a black Hulk? How fast does his strength increase? Whats his baseline strength? Who has he fought where he had to keep raising his strength? Scans, anyone? Yes, Guidos extra strength stays with him for a certain amount of time, but whos to say, he wont one shot Rage? Rage overload him? Based off what? What are his strength feats?