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Csdabest
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Thank you for making that claim. Now prove it.

http://obd.wikispaces.com/Reaction+Time

Chinemi was casually dodging lightning, meaning he was reacting to the lightning and was able to dodge it.
It clearly says Reaction and Movement are indeed different. iIn the second paragrap. And all im seeing is lightning coming from the guy's sword. So i reluctant to beleive its as fast as lightning.


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It clearly says Reaction and Movement are indeed different. iIn the second paragrap. And all im seeing is lightning coming from the guy's sword. So i reluctant to beleive its as fast as lightning.


Yet, their both speed. So your point is moot.

http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/190/04/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/190/05/

yes, the lightning obviously onlly come out of his sword.

Oh wait.


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Kyo solos Bleachverse with both hands tied behind his back.


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I saw you complain about this thread over in the OBD so I decided to pitch in. Although I am not an SDK expert so I leave most of the heavy debating to you.


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Actually he did slow down time around him. Soifon kick became extremely slow when she entered her pressence


i know that..i said that was his power in his normal form..in his release form..he did not stop time..he fast forward everything that came close to him which turn them into dust..


and i still say any of the top espada can beat Kyo..

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What a bunch of stupid ****s.

Apparently evading something, means you can obtain the same speed as the object.

That's about as stupid as the claims that someone can resist time by using.... their will!


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Yet, you have not disproved it.


Also, aging Kyo is useless since he has longevity.


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So does Soi Fon. And that worked like a charm didn't it. wink

But honestly, one instance of possible speed does not make one a speedster, you should post most speed feats, because that ones ambiguous at best.

Also, Batman dodges bullets all the time. Does this mean he can run and fight at bullet speed? No.


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So does Soi Fon. And that worked like a charm didn't it. wink .


...what?

They have rally long lives, but that's it. Where does it state they have longevity?

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But honestly, one instance of possible speed does not make one a speedster, you should post most speed feats, because that ones ambiguous at best.


You haven't read SDK have you? If you that's the only speed feat, I suggest you read the manga.


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Also, Batman dodges bullets all the time. Does this mean he can run and fight at bullet speed? No.


He aim dodges. There's a large difference.


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...what?

They have rally long lives, but that's it. Where does it state they have longevity?


That...... is what longevity is. Really long life.

See- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/longevity

Anyway, Shinigami live for thousands of years

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You haven't read SDK have you? If you that's the only speed feat, I suggest you read the manga.


No, but still, basing your entire argument on one seriously ambiguous feat is not a very good feat. Post more, it'll help with the argument and shouldn't take much effort.

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He aim dodges. There's a large difference.


And you can conclusively say the person in your feat didn't aim dodge too?


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That...... is what longevity is. Really long life.

See- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/longevity

Anyway, Shinigami live for thousands of years



No, but still, basing your entire argument on one seriously ambiguous feat is not a very good feat. Post more, it'll help with the argument and shouldn't take much effort.



And you can conclusively say the person in your feat didn't aim dodge too?


Thousands of years, good for them. they still die from age. Kyo doesn't.

And no, you can't aim dodge lightning. If you don't know why, I suggest look it up.


volume 1:

http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/2/09/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/2/10/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/2/11/

http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/2/18-19/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/2/21/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/2/22/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/2/23/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/2/24-25/

Speedblitzing 2 speedsters

volume 2:
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/7/04/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/7/12/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/8/02-03/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/8/04-05/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/8/06/

Another speedblitz

Volume 4:
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/24/15-16/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/24/15-16/

casually cutting hundreds of spiders in half

http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/25/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/25/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/25/16/

Speedblitzing a large group of people, hitting them each 5 times

http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/25/16/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/29/13/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/30/06/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/30/06/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/30/06/

casual blocking with the tip of his sword

http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/32/06/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/32/07/
Yukimura blocks numerous bullets and speedblitz the gunmen

http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/32/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/32/09/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/32/10/

Kyo speedblitzes gunmen and bullets

http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/40/17/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/41/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/41/09/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/41/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/41/12-13/


Volume 5:

Killing the forest dwellers

http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/47/10/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/47/11/


Volume 6:

Kyoshiro speedblitzing a large amount of Kyo clones, each one as strong as the original

http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/54/09/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/54/10/


Volume 7:

Bikara, faster than Kyo

http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/56/02-03/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/56/04/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/56/05/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/56/06/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/56/07/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/56/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/56/09/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/56/10-11/

Kyo awakens and speedblitzes Bikara

Volume 13:
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/101/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/101/12/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/101/14-15/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/101/14-15/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/101/14-15/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/101/18-19/

Sasuke first using lightning to kill a Mibu

Volume 14:
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/107/18-19/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/107/20-21/

Kyo speedblitzes Hotaru, one of the 4 Emperors. Kyo was already half dead from his training.


Volume 15:

http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/116/10/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/116/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/116/12-13/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/116/12-13/

Kyo cuts the guy so much he turns to dust.

Volume 16:
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/126/05/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/126/06/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/126/07/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/126/09/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/126/10/

Kyo keeping up and being faster than Hotaru, who was previously faster than him


http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/126/16-17/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/126/19/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/127/10-11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/127/12-13/

kyo tanks Hotaru's strongest attack and beats him


Volume 23:

http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/172/07/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/172/10-11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/172/12/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/172/13/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/172/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/172/15/

Kyo gains full control over Kyoshiro's body and beats Shinrei easily.

http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/173/06/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/173/07/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/173/08-09/
http://www.onemanga.com/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo/173/10/

Kyo avoids a rain of acid

Scans end at this point so I can't show Kyo matching Yukimura's Sekireigan (the same one that allows the user to stop time) yet.


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Muuuuch better. yes


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