KillerMovies - Movies That Matter!

REGISTER HERE TO JOIN IN! - It's easy and it's free!
Home » Movie Franchises » Indiana Jones » One Year On ...

One Year On ...
Started by: Ahnold

Forum Jump:
Post New Thread    Post A Reply
Pages (24): « 1 2 [3] 4 5 » ... Last »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread
Sadako of Girth
Extreme Mode

Gender: Male
Location: McClane's Right one

I reckon you're right.

It began on film.


What would have made me laugh, would have been if he went in for the liberals, instead of the predictable Neo Conservative image that a terminator belies.


__________________



"Van Zan is the Pinocchio of feces." - Lestov16

Old Post Jun 8th, 2009 11:28 AM
Sadako of Girth is currently offline Click here to Send Sadako of Girth a Private Message Find more posts by Sadako of Girth Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Kazenji
Senior Member

Gender: Male
Location: Australia

quote: (post)
Originally posted by queeq
And still, T2 was by far superior to T3.


Hell even T4 is better then T3.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well I guess 'baddie' is a relative term is what Cameron tried to imply in the next movie. Good 'morals and machines' point. But the fewer deaths/lighter tone detracted somewhat, for me.


And also the Tin Man finally got a heart as Cameron says it.

Last edited by Kazenji on Jun 8th, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Old Post Jun 8th, 2009 12:45 PM
Kazenji is currently offline Click here to Send Kazenji a Private Message Find more posts by Kazenji Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
queeq
Chaos

Gender: Unspecified
Location: JP's bed

Yeah... right. T was not a Tin Man... he was a robot with a strict programme.


__________________

Old Post Jun 8th, 2009 02:36 PM
queeq is currently offline Click here to Send queeq a Private Message Find more posts by queeq Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Sadako of Girth
Extreme Mode

Gender: Male
Location: McClane's Right one

Indeed.


__________________



"Van Zan is the Pinocchio of feces." - Lestov16

Old Post Jun 8th, 2009 02:44 PM
Sadako of Girth is currently offline Click here to Send Sadako of Girth a Private Message Find more posts by Sadako of Girth Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
queeq
Chaos

Gender: Unspecified
Location: JP's bed

Connor just programmed him.


__________________

Old Post Jun 8th, 2009 05:02 PM
queeq is currently offline Click here to Send queeq a Private Message Find more posts by queeq Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Sadako of Girth
Extreme Mode

Gender: Male
Location: McClane's Right one

To be a dick.


__________________



"Van Zan is the Pinocchio of feces." - Lestov16

Old Post Jun 8th, 2009 06:30 PM
Sadako of Girth is currently offline Click here to Send Sadako of Girth a Private Message Find more posts by Sadako of Girth Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
queeq
Chaos

Gender: Unspecified
Location: JP's bed

Hehehe


__________________

Old Post Jun 9th, 2009 06:48 AM
queeq is currently offline Click here to Send queeq a Private Message Find more posts by queeq Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Kazenji
Senior Member

Gender: Male
Location: Australia

quote: (post)
Originally posted by queeq
Yeah... right. T was not a Tin Man... he was a robot with a strict programme.


Totally was'nt the point........

Cameron on changing the tone for Terminator 2-

The Terminator associated with being a killing machine this is his purpose in life. Devoid of any emotion, remorse, or any kind of human social order he suddenly finds himself in a strange dilemma of his career. He can't kill anybody and he does'nt know why. He's got to figure it out.....So the Tin Man gets his heart

Old Post Jun 9th, 2009 07:41 AM
Kazenji is currently offline Click here to Send Kazenji a Private Message Find more posts by Kazenji Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
queeq
Chaos

Gender: Unspecified
Location: JP's bed

Still, it doesn't make sense. How can a programmed machine have ANY dilemma? Don't get me wrong, I like T2 a lot, but this humanization of machines is a major pitfall. Spielberg didn't get it right in AI, neither did Cameron in T2. He kinda ruined the very thing that made T1 such a succes. T was the robo equivalent of the shark in Jaws... you just don;t want to shark having feelings or a heart now, do you?

HAL in 2001 was a good example of how programming conflicted with the response of it's users. But HAL didn't have a heart, he just did was he was told and didn't understand why Dave turned against him.


__________________

Old Post Jun 9th, 2009 09:55 AM
queeq is currently offline Click here to Send queeq a Private Message Find more posts by queeq Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Kazenji
Senior Member

Gender: Male
Location: Australia

quote: (post)
Originally posted by queeq
Still, it doesn't make sense. How can a programmed machine have ANY dilemma? Don't get me wrong, I like T2 a lot, but this humanization of machines is a major pitfall.


First of all skynet did'nt re-programmed the T-101 thats in T2 it was Future John that did the re-programming and the John in the past is the one that started teaching it the emotions


quote:
T was the robo equivalent of the shark in Jaws... you just don;t want to shark having feelings or a heart now, do you?


Obvisouly no........but with the Termi in T2 its explain how and shown how its manage to start learning its emotions rather then automatically resort back to its killer insticts that Skynet programs them with.

Old Post Jun 9th, 2009 01:14 PM
Kazenji is currently offline Click here to Send Kazenji a Private Message Find more posts by Kazenji Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
queeq
Chaos

Gender: Unspecified
Location: JP's bed

A machinen CANNOT have emotions... it can only simulate them. That's the whole point. And it doesn't matter WHO programmed him, the point is: it's a machine, it runs only by its programme.


__________________

Old Post Jun 9th, 2009 01:25 PM
queeq is currently offline Click here to Send queeq a Private Message Find more posts by queeq Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Sadako of Girth
Extreme Mode

Gender: Male
Location: McClane's Right one

Yeah Queeqs right.

The learn mode of the CPU was just so it could be allowed to function away from Skynet's command etc.

It is not to be confused with Data's emotion chip from ST.

T2: "I know now why you cry.. ..but it is something I can never do."

That line definitely suggests that his was an intellectual understanding of the Human facet, but not being human, he could not do likewise...being without emotion.


__________________



"Van Zan is the Pinocchio of feces." - Lestov16

Last edited by Sadako of Girth on Jun 9th, 2009 at 01:57 PM

Old Post Jun 9th, 2009 01:54 PM
Sadako of Girth is currently offline Click here to Send Sadako of Girth a Private Message Find more posts by Sadako of Girth Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
queeq
Chaos

Gender: Unspecified
Location: JP's bed

Yup


__________________

Old Post Jun 9th, 2009 04:03 PM
queeq is currently offline Click here to Send queeq a Private Message Find more posts by queeq Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Sadako of Girth
Extreme Mode

Gender: Male
Location: McClane's Right one

Leaving them very Vulcanesque.


__________________



"Van Zan is the Pinocchio of feces." - Lestov16

Old Post Jun 14th, 2009 09:29 PM
Sadako of Girth is currently offline Click here to Send Sadako of Girth a Private Message Find more posts by Sadako of Girth Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
queeq
Chaos

Gender: Unspecified
Location: JP's bed

I wouldn't want it any other way.


__________________

Old Post Jun 15th, 2009 09:43 PM
queeq is currently offline Click here to Send queeq a Private Message Find more posts by queeq Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Sadako of Girth
Extreme Mode

Gender: Male
Location: McClane's Right one

The only way I can think to improve it is to throw in Jolene Blalock from the Mirror universe enterprise episode, fighting/lezzing off with Megan Fox in a vat of yogurt.


__________________



"Van Zan is the Pinocchio of feces." - Lestov16

Old Post Jun 15th, 2009 10:21 PM
Sadako of Girth is currently offline Click here to Send Sadako of Girth a Private Message Find more posts by Sadako of Girth Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
queeq
Chaos

Gender: Unspecified
Location: JP's bed

You need a girl friend.


__________________

Old Post Jun 16th, 2009 07:43 PM
queeq is currently offline Click here to Send queeq a Private Message Find more posts by queeq Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Sadako of Girth
Extreme Mode

Gender: Male
Location: McClane's Right one

Whats that line from Jurassic Park...?

"Im always on the lookout for a future ex-missus-Sadako."

stick out tongue


__________________



"Van Zan is the Pinocchio of feces." - Lestov16

Old Post Jun 16th, 2009 11:03 PM
Sadako of Girth is currently offline Click here to Send Sadako of Girth a Private Message Find more posts by Sadako of Girth Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
queeq
Chaos

Gender: Unspecified
Location: JP's bed

laughing out loud

So you're a fervent proponent of chaos?


__________________

Old Post Jun 17th, 2009 06:53 AM
queeq is currently offline Click here to Send queeq a Private Message Find more posts by queeq Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Sadako of Girth
Extreme Mode

Gender: Male
Location: McClane's Right one

Looks like it.

Quantum Physics seems to agree with it to, so hell. Why not...?


__________________



"Van Zan is the Pinocchio of feces." - Lestov16

Old Post Jun 17th, 2009 11:57 AM
Sadako of Girth is currently offline Click here to Send Sadako of Girth a Private Message Find more posts by Sadako of Girth Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
All times are UTC. The time now is 07:46 PM.
Pages (24): « 1 2 [3] 4 5 » ... Last »   Last Thread   Next Thread

Home » Movie Franchises » Indiana Jones » One Year On ...

Email this Page
Subscribe to this Thread
   Post New Thread  Post A Reply

Forum Jump:
Search by user:
 

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON

Text-only version
 

< - KillerMovies.com - Forum Archive - Forum Rules >


© Copyright 2000-2006, KillerMovies.com. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by: vBulletin, copyright ©2000-2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.