I'm not assuming anything, I'm going by the fact that when she phases, she's completely intangible, a spell needs somethig physical, something solid to hit it. The spell doesn't affect the air as it passes does it?
In that case, Snape uses Legilimency and turns her on the mutants. Just one possible way of defeating her.
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Sure, because no wizards will be engaging them. Not to mention DEMENTORS.
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I never said that, I was just laying out a scenario. Umbridge could Incarcerous her ass.
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They're goning to have to use 6 spells for that, four corners, top and bottom. They won't be able to do this before Xavier can do his thing, even if they can, they need to stay behind the spell-blocking barriers or get pwned, so they're effectively immobilised anyway.
Your opinion doesn't make something happen. People will feel the dementors pass by (unhappyness aura), or notice mysteriously defeated allies and inform Xavier about an unknown magical attack. Etc.
Yeah, blocks, like a shield. A visible shield. A shield that can be broken.
They appear, they point at the players, Harry faints, no 'zeroing in' involved.
Legilimens is a purely magical attack, which dementors are immune to. Telepathy isn't and so should take them out. Once again, they have a mind, they can be attacked.
Fair enough.
No. Xavier renders invisibility useless, he can pinpoint him and direct allies.
Snape has to point his wand at harry and say the incantation. So does Voldemort.
So they see them, big deal. If they cannot produce a Patronus, they are ****ed.
Yes, but what breaks it? There is no way of proving what it takes to break it.
The Dementors are all over the place, why didnt they soul suck one of the other players, or the crowd? Hmm?
Evidence that telepathy will work ona Dementor? Hmm? Thought not.
No Patronus, no defense.
That is all
Afraid I am gonna need more of an explaination than "Xavier renders invisibility useless."
And?
Read it again
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And he can do this from beyond the grave? Because after Voldemort apparates him, death spells him, and apparates away, this is where he will be.
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Ok, you're an idiot. You asked for an explanation on what he meant by 'invisibility not being effective'. You get your explanation, and you reply with this bullshit. seriously.
Just because they haven't doesn't mean they can't. Wiki said their sentient, as they've can control their powers and have free-will, as they've revolting before. Unless you can show me a scene were someone tried telepathy of the likes of Xavier on them and it failed?
Expecto Patronum is the only MAGICAL defense/offense against a Dementro. The mutants' powers aren't magical in nature.
Xavier and Phoenix rape them, mentally, in mass; doesn't matter if their invisible, as those mutant powers seek minds and affect minds, along with all but the 3-4 wizards that are skilled in occlumency. That's the bottom line, just accept the mutants have much heavier hitters than the wizards.
So Xavier is telepathically letting his teammates know where the Dementors are. So? There are hundreds of them and they are flying around everywhere. You telling me he will have it in him to track them, keep up the telepathic link to his teammates, AND mind rape? If he couldnt sense Mystique in the X school, this is literally impossible.
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What is stated in wiki takes a back seat to what is SAID in the movies. Legilimency is a telepathic power, if the Dementors could be controlled by telepathic powers, it would have been done.
Indeed. If the Dementors were vulnerable to physical attacks, then DP's attacks would hurt them. But they are not vulnerable to physical attacks.
Movie feats and quotes dictate that a Dementor can ony be driven away only by a Patronus. You wanna assume that the mutants can harm them? Go for it, but it's a wild guess without a shred of evidence.
Afraid not, but nice try. No Patronus, no defense against Dementors. THATS the bottom line. It is said in the movies, therefore it is law.
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You're wrong, again. Legilimency is a MAGICAL form of telepathy used to extract thoughts from someones mind, it isn't mind-control, mind-wiping or mind-rape, as Xaviar's powers are, so the wizards that have Ligilimency couldn't use it to control the Dementors.
DP's powers are mentally dirived in nature, just like Xavier.
There is no reason to believe that mental powers not seen in the HP world wouldn't harm Dementors, it states that they have minds, ergo Xavier and Phoenix can attack them via that path.
Actually it is never stated that he can attack/interact with any mind he wants. We never see him use his powers on animals, or anything not mutant or human. So who's to say it can be used on dementors, something clearly not human or mutant.
They have minds, they think and they're certainly not like animals running on instinct, as they've staged revolts and can cast spells, according to Wiki. You keep digging though.
Which is beside the point. The point i was making was that so far Xavier has onyl interacted with humans and mutants. So we know he could at least attempt to mindrape the wizards. But there is no way to say that he an do anything to a dementor.
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