1 warehouse can only hold so much. Besides is not like Castle crams every bullet he can in these places. His weapons/ammo are all boxed, hanging on racks etc. They don't have enough to kill 10,000 Orcs. End of story.
Theres only one way to the castle they have to go through it.
He doesnt need to one land mine can take out several. 10 ( edit one landmine could kill several) landmines could take out several orc that means that 10 landmines could kill 100 ( oops my bad thats not 100 but depends on the potency 10 landmines could kill 20). Punisher probably has 100s of landmines and explosives.
Yeah he probably does have enough ammuniton. In Daughters of the Dragon we only see a small part of his stash in one part of his warehouse. There were most likely at least 100 guns, what looked like a missle launcher and a gattling gun.
Bare in mind that heroes were asking Pun for weapons hes not going to show them eveything he has. if 10 explosive can take out 100 whats 100s going to do?
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Last edited by Deadline on Jun 1st, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Black Uruks =/= mindless orcs, either. At least in the movie verse. Shagrat actually survived that massacre and delivered the shirt to Mouth of Sauron. That's gotta count for something.
There are many ways. Uruks can climb it using ladders, or Ballistas, Mines, and going up the entrance. 5 Men can't cover all that.
Good speculation, but again, Uruk-hai are very smart, they know follow direct orders. If they know who they are attack, they will use a smart strategy.
Where is he going to keep all that. The enemy will be moving in, while he reloads. They will use their body, shields, and armor to soak the damage.
The movies have it very different. Though, the movies is very very good.
They portray Orcs, and other creatures as if they have a mind of their own, however, they don't. Their every movement, and though(if they had any) are controlled by they one master. He orders them, and controls them
Er theres 155 men. Um in order to use the ladders they ahve to get through the ,mind field.
Yeah? Ok explain it to me then.
What do you mean, hes planted the explosives before hand. I see so you think their armour and shield can absorb machine gunfire? Now you're being ridcoulous.
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Men which will all get slaughtered in one attack from the crossbow. Keep in mind, 155 can't do any more then experts elf archer.
It's pretty simply. The Uruk-hai's aren't stupid. They know what to do. They just do it, they don't feel pain like humans. They are more physically durable, and stronger then regular humans.
So you have 1000 mines on the field that's coming to helms deep, you got 1000 more in Helms Deep, and you got a guy who doesn't need to reload any explosions.
It's pretty simple dude: The UHs are very durable. Even in the movie(not the same as the book), they soaked up damage. A Berserker was able to soak up a huge amount of arrows(about 4) with no armor and still running. A regular man would die in about one- two shots.
Don't forget, The archers in Helms Deep are very accurate. They rarely miss. They knew the enemy's weakness. They attacked their necks. Something the 5 men can't do.
Arrows > maching gunfire. ...and hes telling me its simple...
*sigh* machine gunfire goes through brick walls and a standard klasnikov can go through a car door easily, their armour aint stopping shit. Shouldnt have to explain this.
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Last edited by Deadline on Jun 1st, 2009 at 11:41 PM
I never said Arrow>Machine gun, but it will take a lot more then a few shots to kill a uruk-hai. They soak up damage from arrows with no arrow. An arrow would have stopped on their arrow(there is a huge gap between it). They have shields, and they can take meat shields.
Don't forget, the defenders don't have time to aim at their weak spots.
Which scene are you talking about? I only remember the Berserker with the torch taking two arrows from Legolas. Ofc it didn't stop him and he blew up the wall, but more projectiles could have made a difference... could it not?
hmm. I though it was 4 shots. Well, then yeah, it was 2 shots(if you say so).
however, don't forget Lurts( he is a regular Uruk-Hai). His arm got cut, and he got stabbed in the stomach, and he still was fighting. Only when his head was chopped, he died.
Any ways, my point was, a uruk-hai with no armor was able to tank 2 shots+ more. He could have taken even more with a shield, armor, another dead body, and his durability.
Legolas shot him in the both trapezius muscles and he kept running, so that's impressive. Kingpin was recently immobilized by that (DD #116).
Lurtz* was badass and I'd say way better than regular Uruk. Think of Boromir and regular Dunedain... I think he might have been the first Uruk-hai in the movie or at least one of the first. Makoare's performance was great, by the way.
What I mean is, major heroes/villains always soak up a lot of damage... you'd call Gothmog a regular Orc, but even when he was handicapped and injured by Eowyn, it took combined efforts of Aragorn and Gimli to put him down for good.
Gothmog doesn't exist. The only gothmog there is, is a Leader of the Balrogs. Same goes with Lurts. He doesn't exist. The one Aragorn fought was a regular Uruk-Hai