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Zack Fair
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Square Enix needs to die.


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Originally posted by Zack Fair
Square Enix needs to die.


You said it.


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All we see above there from the banned person is a failure to understand how basic principles work. And an outright observation failure by implying XI was not a grind-fest.


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Square Enix needs to die.

Square Enix was the best producer of RPG's in the 90's.


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Square Enix was the best producer of RPG's in the 90's.

Square Enix didn't exist in the 90s. That was before the merger. Square was the best producer of RPGs in the 90s.


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Enix also made pretty damn good RPGs - Dragon Quest, anyone? But yes, the merger didn't really help either side much.


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Well yeah. Ironic that two great RPG companies started going downhill once they became one... culminating in what looks like a Final Fantasy game being almost universally panned by critics and players alike.


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Yeah. It's like...what the hell, how does that even happen?


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Firstly, can I ask why I was banned? If it was for no reason other than disagreeing with a moderator that's pretty sad...

Secondly, explain how FFXI and XIV are even similar in principle, and define principle while you're at it, if the criteria I was using doesn't fit your definition. You also couldn't be more wrong about FFXI; again, have you even played it. It was no different from any other Final Fantasy game, there was no grind involved whatsoever, everything was driven by the story as any other Final Fantasy, and the quests and missions alone provided you with enough to do to level at a pace to continue progressing through them. Again, did you even play it Ushgaruk?

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This game excluded, name one game that SE developed that wasn't at the very least amazing? Final Fantasy XII and XIII are arguably the two best games in the entire series, and other games such as The World Ends With You have also been pretty incredible.

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Blimey, the idea that FFXI had 'no grind whatsoever' is hysterical... it also plummets any possible credibility from a poster.


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I don't know why you're going to keep banning me and respond at the same time; also is there somewhere I can appeal to my ban as I still haven't received an explanation.

Anyway, explain to me how FFXI was as much of a grind fest as you seem to believe? As long as you weren't an idiot and did the quests and missions it would be entirely pointless to grind. The game was made in a way so that you don't grind. Again, did you play XI? You're clearly misinformed if you think it's at all similar to XIV and an especially grind intensive MMO.

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if you go to the ffxi wikia you can see how much story content there was; more than enough to get through without having to resort to grinding, i cna assure you.

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If you bothered to check, you would see I didn't ban you in the first place. You are being banned now for socking and if you keep doing it your posts will be deleted.

FFXI is FAMOUSLY a grind fest. It is one of its primary attributes, much commented upon by reviews and community sites all around. Let's hear Peach's opinion...


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Originally posted by Banned?
Firstly, can I ask why I was banned? If it was for no reason other than disagreeing with a moderator that's pretty sad...


Well there are the 100+ sock ccounts.....


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It was no different from any other Final Fantasy game, there was no grind involved whatsoever,


Uh, what? Final Fantasy's 5, 8, X-2 and 12 disagree with you. Their entire combat systems are built around grind. Most of the FF systems are.


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Alright, fine. Can you at least tell me where I can enquire as to why i got banned and appeal it? And may i ask who banned me? When you get banned it doens't ;et you leave the screen so i had to switch web browser to be able to return.

"Well there are the 100+ sock ccounts....."

Wait, what is that? I'm pretty sure it was said somewhere where I got banned, I just assumed Ushgarak was talking gibberish.

"Uh, what? Final Fantasy's 5, 8 and 12 disagree with you. Their entire combat systems are built around grind. Most of the FF systems are."

Well I never played 5, but 8 couldn't have been further from that. Enemies levelled with you, so there was literally no purpose at all to grinding. I was able to play through XII just fine without grinding.

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You had to grind for hours to draw spells. The other ways are equally grind-tastic. That was what most of the game was, at least for me.


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It didn't take anywhere near as long as people made out. I could max out on a single spell in a few minutes, tops. The vast majority of the game is simply going through the story and event specific gameplay.

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"You are being banned now for socking and if you keep doing it your posts will be deleted."

Sorry, i forgot about this, ill stop responding until this is resolved.

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