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Whoever said this was scaremongering is correct.

They're trying to make an example of this woman, because if there was a simple and easy way to shut off all illegal file sharing - well they would have done it by now.
Hence the over exaggerated ridiculous sentence.

We didn't have any serious examples of anyone being persecuted for downloading songs illegally - so we have it now.

They're implementing a tactic of you policing yourself - they shake their fat corporate finger at you and say ''this can happen to YOU''.
This way you will police yourself, instead of them doing it, which is near to impossible.


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this reminds me to clean my hard drive and delete things that just waste space.. *cough..... how did they even fight her and know she was downloading songs?

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Originally posted by lil bitchiness
They're trying to make an example of this woman, because if there was a simple and easy way to shut off all illegal file sharing - well they would have done it by now.
Hence the over exaggerated ridiculous sentence.


Yet it's an unfair and totally bullshit example, smelling of corruption, since the music industry has billions on it's side.

If someone steals $100.00 worth of clothing, no Judge or Jury will penalize them with paying back $8 million in damages. There is no precedent for this, wait, now there is.

The fine should fit the crime, simple as that. She stole $24.00 dollars worth of goods, that's not even a felony.


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Yet it's an unfair and totally bullshit example, smelling of corruption, since the music industry has billions on it's side.

If someone steals $100.00 worth of clothing, no Judge or Jury will penalize them with paying back $8 million in damages. There is no precedent for this, wait, now there is.

The fine should fit the crime, simple as that. She stole $24.00 dollars worth of goods, that's not even a felony.


Exactly. It smells of corruption and geed. But they are counting on scaring everyone shitless and with that making few more millions.

Appaling.


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Haven't you seen the South Park episode about downloading music? big grin

Just watch Cribs and you will see what I mean.

Lil' Bow Wow had a car before he could drive. roll eyes (sarcastic)
Not all musicians are rich like that


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what a relieve.. sure as hell cant track me then. i guess i can carry on. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Yet it's an unfair and totally bullshit example, smelling of corruption, since the music industry has billions on it's side.

If someone steals $100.00 worth of clothing, no Judge or Jury will penalize them with paying back $8 million in damages. There is no precedent for this, wait, now there is.

The fine should fit the crime, simple as that. She stole $24.00 dollars worth of goods, that's not even a felony.
i think they need to blame the person who uploads the torrents that are ilegal on to the site. they should get on them 1st because they are the main ones to blame since they originally copied or how ever they get the document in the 1st place. if they dont upload it on to the site then theres no downloaders.


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what a relieve.. sure as hell cant track me then. i guess i can carry on. roll eyes (sarcastic)
let me guess someone has hide my ip 2009 ?


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i think they need to blame the person who uploads the torrents that are ilegal on to the site. they should get on them 1st because they are the main ones to blame since they originally copied or how ever they get the document in the 1st place. if they dont upload it on to the site then theres no downloaders.


There's no real "upload", since it's usually peer-to-peer. In essence, if you're sharing your music, I link up to your computer via a 3rd party software (eg torrents, orginal napster) and download directly from your computer (and others, in many cases, if it's a wide share).

Penalizing those 3rd party companies is a no go, as they're not necessaily responsible with what people are sharing, I believe they also have disclaimers when you use their services.


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They ruined this woman's life over 24 songs. Ridiculous.


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There's no real "upload", since it's usually peer-to-peer. In essence, if you're sharing your music, I link up to your computer via a 3rd party software (eg torrents, orginal napster) and download directly from your computer (and others, in many cases, if it's a wide share).

Penalizing those 3rd party companies is a no go, as they're not necessaily responsible with what people are sharing, I believe they also have disclaimers when you use their services.
so the torrents that get put on the site by the user they get uploaded on to there from some other software. well then they are to blame for file sharing not just the downloaders.


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She is paying for all those who got away with it. Cruel justice.


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They ruined this woman's life over 24 songs. Ridiculous.
I wonder what songs it were.


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let me guess someone has hide my ip 2009 ?



i use and do oher more questionable things


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I wonder what songs it were.


I'm sure nothing along the lines of Tchaikovsky's Overture or Mozart's Concerto no. 23.

But I DO wonder what kind of genius musical art was worth so much money. Someone please enlighten us.


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I'm sure nothing along the lines of Tchaikovsky's Overture or Mozart's Concerto no. 23.


Those are both public domain by now, though I guess specific performances would be illegal to download.


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Those are both public domain by now, though I guess specific performances would be illegal to download.

Which is why I said I'm sure she hasn't downloaded those, so if priceless music is not in question, again, which one is worth so much money.


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Except the flaw in that argument is that if you're downloading them illegally then you're neither loyal nor supporting the company regardless of how much you like the comics. Quite the opposite in fact.


my argument was, in fact, that there is a higher percentage of downloaders who also buy in the comic medium than the music. There are some people for whom knowing the content before buying has actually increased the number of comics they purchase. Obviously the same can be said for music, but I think that is less mainstream than with comics.

the argument doesn't really rely on relative interpretations of word use...


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Yeah, they do this from time to time to try and remind people that it's illegal. Make a hyperbolic example of some random person in hopes that people will hear about and say 'oh shit, well I better not do that anymore!'.

It works wonders, obviously.

Brb, loading Limewire.


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I'm kind of thinking this qualifies as cruel and unusual punishment. That's an exorbitant amount to levy on an average person.

have any of the jurors done interviews yet?


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