Which Spiderman cartoon so far do you think is the most intense, the most mature, and the most dark? In my opinion, I think it's the Spectacular Spider-Man. I know it looks as some children's show but it is actually very intense. I would say it is as dark as Justice League Unlimited and Batman Beyond. Here are some reasons why I think so:
1. Harry taking the "Globulin Green" drug and becoming addicted to it. A.K.A. drug addiction (something that was not allowed in dozens of shows)
2. Using the word "kill" instead of "destroy". It also uses words like "destroy" but if I remember correctly, it also uses "kill" and "squash" a lot.
3. The dialogue is very mature. It's dialogue is similar to the dialogues in JLU and Batman: TAS (especially in the episode "Shear Strength"). Plus, in one episode I heard Captain George Stacy saying the F word. And it wasn't censored.
4. Using real guns with real bullets - most of the Spider-Man cartoons have had laser guns while this show uses real guns.
5. Breaking glass - In many other shows, Spider-Man wasn't allowed to break any glass windows.
6. The fights are very intense. The fights are as intense as the fights in Batman Beyond and JLU especially in season 2. In my opinion, these fights in season 2: Spidey vs Venom, Spidey vs GG, Spidey vs Hammerhead vs Silver Sable, and the final battle of the gang war were very intense. I remember spidey being really injured and GG even ripped most of his costume into pieces in the final episode.
7. Deaths - Most spiderman cartoons (and many other cartoons as well; not necesarily related to spiderman) were not allowed to have any death scenes. Spectacular Spider-Man had its first death in the final episode - Norman Osborn. Although he faked his death, he had a funeral and the whole world considers him dead plus he was revealed to be alive only after his funeral so I would say that counts as a kill.
That's why I think Spectacular Spider-Man is the most intense and most mature show up to date.
I wonder what's gonna happen to Gwen. I dont think they'll just let Green Goblin kill her. Although he did kill some guy when he first appeared, they didn't show it well but Osborn smashed his head through a wll.
As for which is the darkest one its deffinitely the 90s show. A lot of things happened there. MJ disappeared and Peter thought she was dead for a while. Mysterio getting blown up and dying. Venom turning into a hero and getting sucked into a portal to spend the rest of his life with Carnage and Dormamu etc
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Maybe like the Ult version, Carnage will kill her, they do plan on doing "dark dvd's" after the 65 episode run. (This is of course if Disney is interested in picking up the show now.)
i wish they added more episodes to the 2003 spiderman series. there where only 13 episodes but i think they where pretty good. the 3D animation kicked ass in HD. if you watch one of the episodes on dvd in HD its amazing compared to watching one of the episdodes on tv.
but out of all the spiderman series i have to give it to spiderman the animated series.
if they where to have the characters and same story lines from the animated series with the 3D animation from the 2003 series that would be the best cartoon ever.
the downfall with the 3D animation series is that there werent alot of his popular enemies that you would see more often in the comics like venom or carnage green goblin. if the series kept on going it would have been more popular. i didnt like art at all with spectacular spider-man they made spideys head look like a triangle.
I have grown uo with Spiderman:the animated series so i am inclined to go for the animated series. Have not seen so much of spectacular but iv'e heard it is very popular.
Spectacular Spiderman. Dont let yourself fooled by the art style.
The stories are more intense and mature than the other
Series. And the action, damn the action is great
While I'll agree that the 90s series is probably much darker, I'm inclined to say that Spectacular Spider-Man series is much more intense and mature. The animation rocks in Spectacular Spider-Man, regardless of how cartoony it may look, and the action is non-stop, which I like a lot. The way the story is processed through the episodes is done extremely well, better even than in the 90s series by staying caught up with the main plots and making sure the characters are properly developed. Much more content seems to be allowed as well, which makes for a pretty top notch Spider-Man series to follow.
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Last edited by Phoenix2001 on Jul 13th, 2009 at 08:21 PM
Good points, everyone. But I've noticed that a few people are comparing the 2 shows. Remember that we're not looking for the best spidey show but for the darkest spidey show.
I remember crying when I was a little kid at the sad ending of Spider-Man Unlimited where Spider-Man remained on that planet forever. I agree. It was really depressing.
I remember crying when I was a little kid at the sad ending of Spider-Man Unlimited where Spider-Man remained on that planet forever. I agree. It was really depressing.