'bastardized version'? an equation is what the ALE always was [ie. a formula that sapped the free will from any sentient life.] as grant himself said, "it is the e=mc2 of despair."
and it was this formula that darkseid mastered.
just knowing the 'life equation' probably would have been enough for supes to be immune.
darkseid wasn't killed when batman shot him - nor did he immediately die when the BR showed up. it was only when superman sang the 'LE' that darkseid/the ALE were negated.
i think you're missing my point. i'm not saying outside variables didn't help darky spread the ALE. i'm saying that darkseid alone was controlling those who became ensnared by it.
Good that you pointed that out (about him having help to spread the ALE), Galan. Because in multiple stories, like FC, like Rock of Ages, like The Dark Side, and even back in NG v1 (IIRC) Darkseid, once having the ALE, needed to use tech to spread it. He couldn't just randomly infect anyone he wanted to.
And about the multiverse crushing singularity...It wouldn't kill GDS Darkseid before he destroyed FC Darkseid's body. Which counts as a win in a KMC thread, prolly.
And there's always the chance that GDS DS's Omega Effect just erases FC Darkseid's existence. This was the PC OE, afterall.
I think he could still infect people by word alone. Remember in Revelations Montoya was being infected just by words before Radiant teleported her to safety. Also in 7 Soldiers, DS was able to infect one of Desaad's patients just by word alone.
Also I remember Simonson and Starlin gave it the same properties.
The only element that seemed unique with FC was that strong minded beings like Spectre and the heroes couldn't be infected without a delivery device with overrode whatever innate defenses they had.
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The hushed and profane secret of that enchanted spear which can strike a target millenia away. Whose name is both "Love" and "Vengenace".
what's odd is that in "seven soldiers" boss dark side seemed to be the only being capable of spreading the ALE, by merely speaking it to other characters [the instance you mentioned]:
fast-forward to "FC" and quite a few of darkseid's underlings were capable of doing the same. it's odd, but i still maintain that the period of time in which darkseid was being reincarnated into turpin is a good explination as to why other characters were able to use the ALE [ie. there was essentially no darkseid in that short timeframe - thus, his croanies had to be used in order to maintain his hold over existence.]
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Last edited by Galan007 on Jul 6th, 2009 at 05:52 PM
that's what i mean. darkseid gave his croanies the ability to use the ALE, during the time when he was being reincarnated into turpin [the time when he really wasn't 'around', per se.]