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Tazer
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Yo.

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Lanterns not getting unaffected by the Crisis is iffy at best even if they were not current Hal is not at his Precrisis level of portrayal. It doesn't really matter if said “characters” were affected or not the whole point of the crisis was to change the power scale and ridiculous unscientific events and actions that was being written in that era.


thats not true: the purpose of CoIE was to streamline the DCU, and make it more accessible by way of eliminating all of the various multiples that existed at the time.........which was immediately rendered null & void when Hypertime was introduced back in the mid-90s.

and personally I bet CoIE was only done cuz some suit @ WB-HQ prolly read a book w/Alan Scott in it and got his tie all twirled up in a knot w/confusion.

also, yur not really gonna try & work the "DC is more scientifically believable" -angle now, are ya? cuz thats an argument where U can only LOSE using it.......


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Originally posted by kgkg Hal was easily keeping up with Pre Crisis Superman and his equal or even superior etc After the crisis pretty much every character that is in the mainstream DCU superhero wise have been rescaled to match Superman power wise. Even those characters that we do see from the Crisis are no longer doing crazy things like they did during that time.


this is very true for the most part, so agreed.




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I agree that Zoom is no longer what he used to be
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Probably because he's in a wheelchair and powerless now.

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Originally posted by Tazer thats not true: the purpose of CoIE was to streamline the DCU, and make it more accessible by way of eliminating all of the various multiples that existed at the time.........which was immediately rendered null & void when Hypertime was introduced back in the mid-90s. and personally I bet CoIE was only done cuz some suit @ WB-HQ prolly read a book w/Alan Scott in it and got his tie all twirled up in a knot w/confusion. also, yur not really gonna try & work the "DC is more scientifically believable" -angle now, are ya? cuz thats an argument where U can only LOSE using it.......

I'm not disagreeing with this but I don't see how what I said was untrue. Having a Multiverse/hypertime prevented just that illogical and unscientific stuff to be managed better via alternate reality so everything wouldn't be cannon material especially those that didn't make sense whatsoever. What you said about is that main reason why the crisis took place is correct but a gradual change was always taking place and the crisis was a perfect tool to take away everything that was overly unrealistic and allowed different stories to take place without affecting current continuity.


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Probably because he's in a wheelchair and powerless now.
Well he is no longer Zoom. I was talking about when he did have his powers.


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Well he is no longer Zoom. I was talking about when he did have his powers.


sure you were . . .

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Well he is no longer Zoom. I was talking about when he did have his powers.

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I'm not disagreeing with this but I don't see how what I said was untrue. Having a Multiverse/hypertime prevented just that illogical and unscientific stuff to be managed better via alternate reality so everything wouldn't be cannon material especially those that didn't make sense whatsoever. What you said about is that main reason why the crisis took place is correct but a gradual change was always taking place and the crisis was a perfect tool to take away everything that was overly unrealistic and allowed different stories to take place without affecting current continuity.


comrade, in order to pull off wat they wanted to do w/CoIE, DC had to THROW OUT their previous continuity for a good number of their legacy/lynchpin books.....biggest example was Superman. that character was/is the center piece of a LARGE PART of DCU-history.......which all had to be retconned becuz all of a sudden the adventure involving it is no longer viable becuz HE was no longer who he'd been for the past 60yrs.

but dont forget, since IC, we're back to somewat of an amalgam of him PLUS the post-CoIE guy, so again wat was the point?? pre-C their books sold, sold well, and were readily accessible to any1 who wanted to read'em even IF they werent knowledgeable about the multiverse; the only reason to change it is if some "money man" got confused reading DC Comics Presents #50, never picked up a comic again and thought "hey, ya know wat we oughtta do....?" as if it was a gem of an idea.

and again, a friendly reminder: trying to call the pre-C DCU "unrealistic" doesnt help yur argument, but in-fact weakens it.





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