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So widely means all now? I must have not gotten the memo, so if you were not a thief or robber as a tax collector you would still be a sinner even if you were fair?
It is nice to see that you consider the IRS and all of its employees to be all thieves, so the poor guy working in the mail room is stealing from everyone. The IRS doesn't kill people, the IRS doesn't burn down their homes, the IRS doesn't take people as slaves for payment. Do you partake in ANY government programs or services? Do you drive on the roads, enjoy police protection? If so then you are a sinner for condoning taxation and guilty as much as the mail room guy at the IRS.
So if the Pharisee's wouldn't say that tax collectors are sinners then why would he ask Jesus why are you sitting with sinners? If they would think that the tax collectors are not sinners why would it be such a shock to them that he is sitting with them?
Sounds like you have a lot of pride/despair/wrath/vanity but those are all sins.
It means most people in that day saw them as the thieves they were.
But, today people don't know the true laws.
Most taxes are illegal including the Federal Reserve.
"To coin money."
Everyone working for them is yes.
Just like the courts would convict people that work for the mob and so on, or a getaway driver. All he did was drive the vehicle.
The Pharisees must not have liked them either.
I'd say they didn't like tax collectors.
Seems you can't connect things.
The Pharisees wanted to discredited Jesus any way they could.
So, they would use anything and everything they could think of.
would you feel as though she had reached her potential and was maximizing herself as a human being?
or, would you think, regardless of her reasons, that she was, to say the least, underachieving?
much like other jobs, there is some innate "usury" assumed in prostitution.
This also assumes a rather egalitarian view of the prostitution industry. Lets have a society that values women's contribution to society more than their bodies, and see if the willingness of women to use it as a means of "wage earning" diminishes.
the respect argument makes more sense with regards to porn, and like I said to Ush, clearly most of the issues around modern prostitution are socio-economic/cultural rather than issues of female respect.
__________________ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
I wish I had a dollar for every time someone asked this (about the daughter, sister, mother, etc) during this discussion.
Of course I wouldn't be happy, but if she made the decision of her own free choice and it wasn't at the coercion of and for the support of a pimp I wouldn't interfere nor would I disown her.
As for the maximizing herself as a human being...you lost me there.
Underachieving? There are lots of jobs/lifestyle choices you can say that about, and very few pay as well as renting one's body.
Let's see, you can make hunderds or even thousands of dollars A DAY as a hooker, or you can make $8.00 an hour at Wal Mart. Yes, I do believe some women become hookers by choice.
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Why not, women have had sex to get promotions, cars, jewelry, houses and so on so what makes getting paid any different? They may not be your common street walking giving $5 BJ's but call girls and escorts that make thousands per week.
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