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John Lennon said that "Ticket To Ride" was the first metal song. So The Beatles started the genre.


Of course anyone who's bothered to listen to the song will realise he was talking absolute balls (as he almost always did)


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Ok, LZ are credited with the first "metal riff" .
wanton song, Physical graffiti.

But they've also shown significant "metal themed" work in some of their other stuff.
Stuff like ; Custard pie, Sick again. both from that album.
Songs like Bring it on home with that heavy guitar riff mixed with the harmonica may be heavy for the day and sure, they influenced metal but it's not metal.

Black sabbath on the otherhand.... BLACK SABBATH...most metal name there is.
Most metal band there is.

Oh and page is better than that other guy. wink


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Iommi's guitar blows Page's out of the water, if you ask me.



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You're insane


Apples and oranges, sir.


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In my opinion Black Sabbath was the first band to write songs that had little to none blues influence. Sure Black Sabbath has obvious blues influences but listen to tracks like Symptom of The Universe or Into the Void, you'll clearly see that that is harder and faster than anything played at the time. They were the first to create HARD rock, Metal - as some people call it. Iomi was the first to down-tune his guitar and use scales that people associated with Satan himself.

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In terms of who was better Page or Iomi... I'd say Iomi. He played guitar like a f*cking demon, just try to play an Iomi solo. Plus he was a great innovator, C# tuning, low bass distortion, demonic scales unheard in rock at the time. It's not insane to think Iomi is better, becuase if he was not #1 during those days, he was definately # 2.


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In my opinion Black Sabbath was the first band to write songs that had little to none blues influence. Sure Black Sabbath has obvious blues influences but listen to tracks like Symptom of The Universe or Into the Void, you'll clearly see that that is harder and faster than anything played at the time. They were the first to create HARD rock, Metal - as some people call it. Iomi was the first to down-tune his guitar and use scales that people associated with Satan himself.



In terms of who was better Page or Iomi... I'd say Iomi. He played guitar like a f*cking demon, just try to play an Iomi solo. Plus he was a great innovator, C# tuning, low bass distortion, demonic scales unheard in rock at the time. It's not insane to think Iomi is better, becuase if he was not #1 during those days, he was definately # 2.


I guess it is apples and oranges but i just can't see how anyone can believe that Iomi was more innovative than Page. Have you heard Led Zeppelin stick out tongue just fookin with ya but yeah, Page is definitely the man here.


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I think Black, Purple and Led are all the first. They all formed in '68, so I will have to say all 3 of them.

Like a trio of metal bands. Led Zeppelin though, are more like their own genre, if you ask me.


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Isn't Helter Skelter considered the first metal song? Wouldn't that make the Beatles the first metal band?


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Isn't Helter Skelter considered the first metal song? Wouldn't that make the Beatles the first metal band?
Should be first metal album.


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Isn't Helter Skelter considered the first metal song? Wouldn't that make the Beatles the first metal band?


This isn't another case of John Lennon saying so is it?

Anyways you only have to listein to Sabbath to see their pivotal position in the birth of metal.


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John wouldn't since Paul wrote the song.


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John wouldn't since Paul wrote the song.


That does suprise me, no wait it doesn't.
I stand by my original statement listein and compare both self titles and it would be evident which one is owed more homage to laying the foundations of the metal genre.


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Led Zeppelin is the first.

They released "Led Zepellin" before Black Sabbath released "Black Sabbath".

Both are heavy metal albums, but Led Zeppelin came first.

So, problem solved, right?


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Led Zeppelin laid the foundation for heavier music, Sabbath created metal.

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A few bands earlier than both could be argued to have done Heavy Metal music before both, like Iron Butterfly, but between both Black Sabbath are probably more relevant to the current genre of Heavy Metal, although Judas Priest are largely responsible for discarding much of the genre's Blues influence.


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I'm not sure that muting the bass drum with a towel makes you metal. I Need You was more or less the first mainstream use of a wah-wah pedal. Does that make the Beatles the first funk band?


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I'm not sure that muting the bass drum with a towel makes you metal. I Need You was more or less the first mainstream use of a wah-wah pedal. Does that make the Beatles the first funk band?


Muted bass drums? Where'd that come from? Trying to be funny ?


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I thought Ticket to Ride was the first documented case of a band stuffing towels in their bass drum to created a muted, heavier sound. That, and a droning bass are the only things that stylistically separate Ticket to Ride from everything else on HELP!


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Led Zeppelin laid the foundation for heavier music, Sabbath created metal.

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Well then.

Mix them together, you get heavy metal.


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