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Originally posted by -Pr-
Generally yes, he is portrayed above other heralds.

Not quite the same thing.

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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Yes it is, superman dips in his power source, adam can to, its the same exact thing

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Originally posted by -Pr-
Not really, but let's say for example he did manage to amp that way. Then what? How would you quantify Adam's power level?

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Ok, I'm not saying that you're making a problem out of nothing. Obviously, I completely agree that PC Superman possesses ridiculously high feats and low feats that are difficult, if not impossible, to reconcile with each other. But while this problem looms especially large for PC Superman, it's not like other characters don't share this issue. Does Thor job to Savage Hulk? Is containing a 1/5th universe destroying blast pis? Or is getting knocked unconcious by a sniper bullet pis?

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I think we deal with these issues all the time with other characters. And when the outliers are that much more divergent, consistent fight portrayals end up being more informative, if not determinative. It's not like Black Adam beat Superman with one measly bolt of magic lightning in one instance and, in another, got blown across the galaxy with a simple superbreath the next fight. If it were, then we'd be in trouble. But, here, it's not. I disagree. No, Thor cannot end him quickly, you know. And he never could.

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That's more than arguable based on individual feats or resorting to ABC logic against other third party characters, e.g., Surfer > Hulk = Thor, or Surfer > BRB = Thor. But based on their actual fights, Thor is usually portrayed as his equal or superior. A one-time encounter (especially one that is short), I might agree. But I don't see any reason to argue against it when we're dealing perrenial matchups (like the ones we're discussing). It's what we've seen in comics. It's what we'll likely see in comics again when the characters match up next time. Boiling it down, I think arguing against it is just arguing against the comics. [/B]

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Originally posted by -Pr-
That's:

a) not how his power works
b) completely out of character
c) a ridiculously stupid thing to do

...though I'm sure you knew that.



sure he does.



As someone who hasn't read a lot of PC stuff, I have to ask: How many fights did they have?

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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Cap was amped x100 i would guess adam too or more

How many multipliers does a sundip amp superman?

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Originally posted by leonidas
pretty sure they only met twice.....

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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
*snip*

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Ok, I'm not saying that you're making a problem out of nothing. Obviously, I completely agree that PC Superman possesses ridiculously high feats and low feats that are difficult, if not impossible, to reconcile with each other. But while this problem looms especially large for PC Superman, it's not like other characters don't share this issue. Does Thor job to Savage Hulk? Is containing a 1/5th universe destroying blast pis? Or is getting knocked unconcious by a sniper bullet pis?

I think we deal with these issues all the time with other characters. And when the outliers are that much more divergent, consistent fight portrayals end up being more informative, if not determinative. It's not like Black Adam beat Superman with one measly bolt of magic lightning in one instance and, in another, got blown across the galaxy with a simple superbreath the next fight. If it were, then we'd be in trouble. But, here, it's not. I disagree. No, Thor cannot end him quickly, you know. And he never could.

That's more than arguable based on individual feats or resorting to ABC logic against other third party characters, e.g., Surfer > Hulk = Thor, or Surfer > BRB = Thor. But based on their actual fights, Thor is usually portrayed as his equal or superior. A one-time encounter (especially one that is short), I might agree. But I don't see any reason to argue against it when we're dealing perrenial matchups (like the ones we're discussing). It's what we've seen in comics. It's what we'll likely see in comics again when the characters match up next time. Boiling it down, I think arguing against it is just arguing against the comics.

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Originally posted by -Pr-



As someone who hasn't read a lot of PC stuff, I have to ask: How many fights did they have?

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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
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Originally posted by cdtm
Pre Crisis Superman vs PC Black Adam?

As far as I've seen, one, from that Cap/Superman team up.

Adam did take a swing or two to Supes in an earlier story, but that was in disguise, to get Superman and Captain Marvel to start fighting.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
This looks like proof to me.

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Originally posted by -Pr-
Ah...



Don't play this game; you won't like where it goes.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
I've seen enough Superman/Sentry pics screaming, Who the ---- is the sentry....bout time the pendulum swung the other way.

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Originally posted by -Pr-
You must have missed all the anti-Superman fanart that's been posted over the years. The pendulum is so far the other way that it's stuck.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
I honestly think the fanart is funny. It shows someone is so mad they post some random stuff which doesn't matter. I've also had to see that non canon ny cops arresting Thanos for years. Learn patience from me, baby brother. Be like me.

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Originally posted by -Pr-
Oh, so it's non canon now? What about the car washing?

Refer to me with the word "baby" again, and I'll sic bada on you.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Noncanon and the car washing shows the guy isn't afraid to wash a car. He mixes in with the working crowd.

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Originally posted by -Pr-
As long as he knows his place.