But anyways, Hurin killed 70 trolls, and countless orcs, WHILE most likely having a balrog or two attaking him. How many of the elves had to die to do what they did? Alot. How many men? Not nearly as many.
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Isil
Turgon aran Gondolin tortha gar a matha, i vegil Glamdring gud dae lo, dam an Glamhoth.
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Found the thing with the quote about Narsil and fear:
"...and the sword of Elendil filled Orcs and Men with fear, for it shone with the light of the sun and of the moon, and it was named Narsil."
—The Silmarillion, Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age
apparently elves arnt mentioned, but undoubtedly they were.Or enamoured of it...........
__________________ Anar
Nanye i ne Anduril i macil Elendilo
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Isil
Turgon aran Gondolin tortha gar a matha, i vegil Glamdring gud dae lo, dam an Glamhoth.
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Elves arnt actually stornger and all, there are just more and they have better senses. I would say Men are stronger. Brutal, in fact.
__________________ Anar
Nanye i ne Anduril i macil Elendilo
Lercuvanten i moli Mordoreo
Isil
Turgon aran Gondolin tortha gar a matha, i vegil Glamdring gud dae lo, dam an Glamhoth.
The Men would win by sheer numbers. There are more Men throughout the ages then there are Elves.
The Elves like Feanor, Thingol, Fingon Fingonfin are more powerful than any Man outside of maybe Turin (who is destined to defeat Morgoth), Huor, Hurin and maybe some of the Numenoreans.
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Iboga chose not to fight, to allow himself to evolve. He had the wisdom to abandon the actions of war when he knew they would no longer serve him.
id think aragorn and the heros would stay out of it since aragorn is MARRIED to an elf princess and you cant really take rohans cavallry into a boost because the elves have kick ass horsemen of their own not to metion their archers they would be able to best a ranger most of the time if the heros stayed out elves would start to win than men would start looking for a superpower than probably get currupted and hello war of the ring 2
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Birds, beasts, trees, flowers;
Gnaws iron, bites steel;
Grinds hard stones to meal;
Slays king ruins town,
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Uhhh, no War of the Ring 2, as there is no ring........
__________________ Anar
Nanye i ne Anduril i macil Elendilo
Lercuvanten i moli Mordoreo
Isil
Turgon aran Gondolin tortha gar a matha, i vegil Glamdring gud dae lo, dam an Glamhoth.
im using the phrase war of the ring in substitue of world war itd be similiar except the ring wouldnd be the goal rather the rivals heads but ur right i just misphrased
__________________ This thing all things devours:
Birds, beasts, trees, flowers;
Gnaws iron, bites steel;
Grinds hard stones to meal;
Slays king ruins town,
And beats high mountain down.
and elves have good single fighters and legendary archers but men are used to fight while massed
__________________ This thing all things devours:
Birds, beasts, trees, flowers;
Gnaws iron, bites steel;
Grinds hard stones to meal;
Slays king ruins town,
And beats high mountain down.
__________________ Recently Produced and Distributed Young but High-Ranking Political Figure of Royal Ancestry within the Modern American Town Affectionately Referred To as Bel-Air.
cure for that =armored formation
covers top , sides and front
__________________ This thing all things devours:
Birds, beasts, trees, flowers;
Gnaws iron, bites steel;
Grinds hard stones to meal;
Slays king ruins town,
And beats high mountain down.
Testudos are still vulnerable to cavalry and a quick closing by the enemy infantry. It's good for protecting a stationary unit or a slow moving one.
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Elves would so win!!!!!!!!!!
They have existed for much longer and have better weapons. Also thousands of men would have fallen before it came to close combat and even there the elves would massacre them.
true but done correctly spears should be fit into the gaps while they make progress im not saying the men would cream the elves itd be really close , but the forces at osgiliath held against the mordor seige for years and years that adds up to thousands of orcs(not 1 or 2 thousand much more} .in a wooded area elves would win through archer superiority itd be close with the rangers but still, on a plain or urban area men would win cause theyre used to that kind of combat ,elves arent .plus theyd probably kiss up before someone loses
__________________ This thing all things devours:
Birds, beasts, trees, flowers;
Gnaws iron, bites steel;
Grinds hard stones to meal;
Slays king ruins town,
And beats high mountain down.
Take into account the fact that men make sturdier shield, and betetr armor as they have better swordsmen in some regards. No one can truthfully say that all men have been incompetent with swords, and Numenoreans would be a huge factor in it as their eyes were nearly as good as elves, they were elves in all aspects except their life span, still a few hundred years for the commoners, longer for the line of Elros.
__________________ Anar
Nanye i ne Anduril i macil Elendilo
Lercuvanten i moli Mordoreo
Isil
Turgon aran Gondolin tortha gar a matha, i vegil Glamdring gud dae lo, dam an Glamhoth.
and elves make beter bows and swords , but i agree
__________________ This thing all things devours:
Birds, beasts, trees, flowers;
Gnaws iron, bites steel;
Grinds hard stones to meal;
Slays king ruins town,
And beats high mountain down.
It's the Numenoreans that would make the deal here. They scared the piss out of Sauron, and that was when he was kicking ass.
__________________ Recently Produced and Distributed Young but High-Ranking Political Figure of Royal Ancestry within the Modern American Town Affectionately Referred To as Bel-Air.
Well in the beginning of the first movie you could see Sauron getting defeated. In that part the orks charge and the elves just wipe out the complete first line. They'd do the same to the men.
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