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Lord Lucien
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Originally posted by Bladewind
Well in the beginning of the first movie you could see Sauron getting defeated. In that part the orks charge and the elves just wipe out the complete first line. They'd do the same to the men.
That is of course assuming that the Men would be charging head first and pell-mell in to a line of Elven archers.

Hey! While they're at it, why don't they just take off their armor and start fighting with sticks.


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plus thats movie BS and the orcs have salvaged armor not like uruks, who make theirs


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Yeah your probably right.

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Nop, hes not. Orcfs made their own armor to, otherwise where would they get it? Men? To big. Elvfes? Like they would even touch it. Dwarves? How? Guys, if you havnt read the first arguments, I wont say names,then read them.


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well they did but not from scratch i believe i always thouh theyd take scaps and bits and strapem together


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I meant they wouldn't be charging head first into battle.

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All the Elves from all time would definately win. Might i remind you that the beings that created Middle Earth were elves. I don't think that men would have a chance vs. the creaters of Middle Earth. Usually the creaters can easily undo what they have made. Good fight men.


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Excuse the spelling error.


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Incanus, orcs rarely make their own armour. They kill humans/elves and take their armour constantly swaping different pieces for better more shiny parts.


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ELVES!!! THEY RULE!! Plus legolas IS v.v.v.v hot!! So hot, he could kill all the men and the rest of the elves would be used to it. SO elves would win. Only prob IS.. im human, so he could kill me hes so hot...

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quote:
the beings that created Middle Earth were elves.


http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/v/valar.html


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That doesn't mean that they did not take their physical form as Elves now does it?...Even if i am wrong who cares get your life out of fantasy.


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Originally posted by Evilbigfoot
All the Elves from all time would definately win. Might i remind you that the beings that created Middle Earth were elves.
The f*ck?


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Alright sorry to bring this thread back from the dead but I googled the subject and couldn't resist. There is a particular point that no one in this thread brought up.

Who would win in a war of all Men versus all Elves, why the Men of course and it wouldn't even be close. The Mannish peoples war against the Elves would resemble a fight between a heavy weight prize fighter and a child in a wheel chair.

Yes the Elves would have superior swords and spears, yes their archers were beyond compare, yes they have some magical abilities. Yes they have some of the greatest heroes of old like Feanor, but none of this would matter in a war with all of the Mannish peoples, does anyone know why?

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While, technically, Numenor is much superior to more or less any one of the Elvish nations, all of them working together, under the leadership of all of the old Elven heroes (Fingolfin, Feanor, Fingon, Thingol), eh....

Elves probably take it 6/10


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Whats the time frame?

Elves shun 'technology' and machines, sheltered away in the blissful eternal peace of Aman most elves would be totally unprepared when faced against modern technology of man.

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For one: They wouldn't have modern tech. They would have swords and spears.


Two: Men. They outnumber the Elves by such a margin, and are on par with them in the realm of swordplay (after a LOT of training) that they just outlast them in the end. Men 6/10

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For one: They wouldn't have modern tech. They would have swords and spears.


Two: Men. They outnumber the Elves by such a margin, and are on par with them in the realm of swordplay (after a LOT of training) that they just outlast them in the end. Men 6/10


What makes you think that, there is no end date. Tolkiens work does reference modern times so modern tech is allowed. The question was "All men vs all elves" not "All men vs All elves from the first three ages".

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This shouldn't even be a contest. Elves would win, period. While there are some Men like Tuor, Turin, and the Numernoreans who are tall, mighty, and brutish, the Elves in general, once they've fully matured, are tall and mighty as well as crafty. Some of the Elves from Valinor would know skills taught to them from the Valar. I don't see how the race of Men would win out.


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What about the half elven, would they not particapte or would they go in the faction they chose? And by the way, men would win, assuming of course the the army of Ar-Pharazon the Golden would be present, which would of had hundreds of thousands of mail clad tall Nuenorean men with two hander swords.

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