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No, not just cause and effect. If cause and effect was water, then Karma is a river. All the cause and effects in your life have brought you to were you are now, and into the future. That direction of your life is Karma.
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Can you read? If you could and did read the thread I posted, you would then know that your statement is untrue. I am sorry if the topic is too difficult for you to understand.
Cause and effect alone does not have aspects like Fixed karma, Unfixed karma and Simultaneity of cause and effect. Cause and effect is a part of Karma, but there is a lot more to it.
Again I invite people to read the thread on the topic.
I figured. You'll inform people of their ignorance, and refer them to a text. When asked for a summary, you insult them. When questioned about that, you insult the inquisitor. For someone who discusses philosophy and believes in Karma, whatever it is to you, you practice egotism relentlessly.
Very nice.
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You are very strange. I have no idea why you would think anything I said was an insult. To be honest; I don't care enough to insult you. I just didn't want to paraphrase it for you. As far as trying to convince you? Again, I don't really care.
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It is not a being, or controlled by the being or any such thing. It is a force.
It is cause and effect. Your actions are bad, the effect of those actions will negatively affect you and others around you.
It is a poor understanding that Karma 'decides' who to punish and whom to not punish. It does not think, it just is.
It also doesn't work like ''you killed someone and then you were walking down the street and randomly get hit by a bus''.
It is NOT eye for an eye idea.
If you keep on killing people, you will eventually get killed yourself - if not by law, then by someone who's path you crossed.
If you steal you will eventually be caught, or stolen from, cheated or worse.
It's just how it is.
So, yes, I believe in Karma. Your actions (whether good or bad) will affect the outcome of things, one way or another. If not right away, then at some point.
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De vivre devant moi
Ceux qui m'aiment me suivent
Je sais toi tu restes là
J'ai besoin d'aimer
Je ne sais rien faire d’autre
J'ai besoin d'aimer
Et n'est pas ta faute C'est ma faute à toi...
Last edited by lil bitchiness on Aug 16th, 2009 at 08:42 PM
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Not really, there are several people who've murdered and then died happy.
Being cheated isn't effected by cheating other people.
No it's not. Karma is a bullshit balancing act made up to convince gullible people that life is somehow fundamentally fair. At its worst karma is empirically untrue, at best it describes something that is totally irrelevant.
That's not karma. That's cause and effect. By definition if you do something, something will happen. Babies know this, no one should be so deluded about things that they have to declare their belief in that.
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Last edited by Symmetric Chaos on Aug 16th, 2009 at 08:49 PM
Karma IS cause and effect. That is the fundamental idea of Karma.
I don't know what Hollywood told you think, but it is wrong.
It helps to actually read about Karmic philosophy.
And I am just really interested in people that you know killed and died HAPPY.
I am really interested in how you know how they died and what they felt.
In case you are about to go on about Stalin, the circumstances of his death will never be known, however it is widely believed that he was killed with rat poison which induced his stroke.
Even Pol Pot was not ALLOWED to be examined for causes of his death, raising suspicions of suicide or poisoning.
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J'ai besoin de vivre
De vivre devant moi
Ceux qui m'aiment me suivent
Je sais toi tu restes là
J'ai besoin d'aimer
Je ne sais rien faire d’autre
J'ai besoin d'aimer
Et n'est pas ta faute C'est ma faute à toi...
are you arguing that all people who have killed another person were killed themselves?
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No, absolutely not. I am not even arguing that those who have killed will be or are killed themselves.
Karmic debt is not about eye for an eye.
I was replying to his post.
Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned murder at all as I don't think I have expressed myself correctly.
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J'ai besoin de vivre
De vivre devant moi
Ceux qui m'aiment me suivent
Je sais toi tu restes là
J'ai besoin d'aimer
Je ne sais rien faire d’autre
J'ai besoin d'aimer
Et n'est pas ta faute C'est ma faute à toi...
__________________ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
Every person has his own Karma. That is in other words his desteny or so called "planned life or future". Planned by God who had the greatest will and strength. So nobody can change his Karma.
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