Registered: Jun 2008
Location: In Luna's mane, chasing STAAARS!
Didn't they have second thoughts?
Most of the clone population became best friends with the jedi and yet when Sidious gave execute order 66, they shot them in cold blood. Didn't they have second thoughts before killing the Jedi, especially when they probably knew that their chancellor is actually a Sith Lord? I know that they're supposed to follow orders but the Jedi were their friends.
Registered: Jul 2005
Location: Living my life, fighting my war.
That's not entirely true. They had friends, as can be seen with Cody and Obi-Wan, but the way they were engineered, their orders were vastly more important than their friends, to the point that they would kill their best friend without hesitation, second thought, or regret if they were ordered to do so.
And also, noone knew that Palpatine was a Sith Lord untill he told Anakin and Anakin told Mace. That information never made it to the main bulk of the Army, not that it would have mattered, Palpatine was their commander and they had 100% loyalty to him.
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Last edited by Mandrag Ganon on Aug 16th, 2009 at 07:02 PM
Registered: Jun 2008
Location: In Luna's mane, chasing STAAARS!
If the clones had even noticed, Palpatine didn't even look the same as he did before. He was seen as an old man in a red robe but now he shows himself as a hideous person wearing a black robe. You think the clones would be thinking "Is that really the chancellor?"
My goodness I wonder if Rex (from Clone Wars) tried to kill a jedi one time even though Rex is the one clone the jedi seemed more attached to.
Registered: Jul 2005
Location: Living my life, fighting my war.
Well, see, now you are getting into EU now. And EU is not respected in these forums. According to these guys, no clones did turn their backs on the republic.
Now, if you are one of the people who are cool enough to accept EU, then that opens a chance for a great look into clone psychology, but people tend to get banned up to these good 'ol parts if they bring the massive possibilities exhibited in the Expanded Universe.
See, because when you bring in the EU, you find out that the first batches of clones were not "Programmed" with Order 66, and those clones did not follow it.
See, once again, you miss the complexities here. From simply a movie standpoint: The clones befriended the Jedi, but their orders were so much more important than their friendship that they would not hesitate to kill their best friend if ordered to do so.
You can see that they befriend the Jedi from how Obi-wan and Cody talk to each other. But, when it came down to it, the order was vastly more important that the friend, so important that he executed the order and (As far as he was aware) Obi-wan, without hesitation, and without remorse.
It's like that age old question: If a family member comitted a crime, would you try to help them get away with it? For us, as humans, that answer does not come easily, however the clone's decision was made for them when they were created. If ordered to do so, a clone would kill his closest friend without a second thouthg.
Once again, this was all from a movie stand point, when the oppression against EU has finally ended you people will see that there is even more to it than even the very simplified way I put it.
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Last edited by Mandrag Ganon on Aug 22nd, 2009 at 02:59 AM
Slight off topic (non-canon etc), but you might be interested to know that in The Clone Wars, Storm Troopers seem to have a choice, as one of them defected.
Registered: Jun 2006
Location: The United American Empire
I bet any so called rogue Clone who became someone's friend would instantly kill on orders lol, he could be working at a pizza place and someone would say "order 66 is up!" and he would try to kill the nearest Jedi with the pizza cutter.