I don't see it. I have personally known attractive guys IRL with more muscle mass than that, although taste is taste I guess. Although the art in Grimmjow's pic makes him look kinda gross I admit...And the Toguro pic was the best I could find of him in his normal form.
Slightly off-topic but Grimmjow's maniacal look and personality always made me think of Kenpachi. THey seem to share impatience, a thirst for combat, etc.. But most people seem to liken Kenny to Nnoitra instead of Grimm.
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All you bitches that say Ulq is not emo....sigh.
He's the epitome of Emo. He has effin' TEARS running down is face, he's apathetic and and disconnected (the very definition of Emo: check it out on Urban Dictionary).
At the very least, he's an emo b*tch, which is an emo poser.
I am absurdly shocked that he didn't cut himself. Maybe that'd be too stereotypical.
He looks, acts, and talks emo....he's just missing the cutting.
lulz, here's a nice Emo convo with Ichigo:
*Ichigo starts to walk away*
Where are you going?
Ichigo:I'm going to save Rukia.
Ulquiorra:I believe I told you she's dead.
Ichigo:I don't think she is.
Ulquiorra:You're being obstinate.
Are you sure you don't want to kill me before you go?
Ichigo:I have no reason to fight you.
Ulquiorra:What does that mean?
Ichigo:You may be the enemy, but you haven't harmed any of my friends yet.
Ulquiorra:I see.
*Ulq then cuts himself out of Ichigo's view*
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I would like to put forward the notion that Emo doesn't equal lame.
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Ulq doesn't cut himself because he doesn't give a shit. An emo is , get this, EMOTIONAL. They cut themselves generally because their life sucks. i know people who have cut and they do it because they want to feel something; they want to relieve emotional pain with physical pain.
Ulquiorra -doesn't.- He has no feeling nor does he apparently desire to have any feeling. He simply exists and doesn't comprehend he point of life or emotion.
See how that is the opposite of Ulquiorra. If anything Ulquiorra is a clear case of psychopathy though he lasks the arrogance and lying that they are supposedly known for. I think it's most fair simply to call Ulq a nihilist.
I agree. Emo = lame is just a stupid generalization made by ignorant people. It's just Ulquiorra isn't emo.
Last edited by Luminatus on Nov 4th, 2009 at 04:15 PM
Well it's true. The idea most people who cut themselves do it just to be cool is a bad stereotype. It undermines the fact they need counseling and if you treat it just like they're soem punk kids it only makes it worse.
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1. Not all Emo's are cutters. Emo is actually a music type that has people not dressing as drab as Goths, but still dressing in dark colors and they listen to Emo music. They are not necessiarly Emotional either. That's a misnomer, really. They are more characterized as apathetic and wanting to give up than actually being emotional. The "emo" part comes from the music type. A person that is always depressed and constantly talks about doom and gloom in their life is actually much more of an Emo who constantly gets angry over little things. The latter is actually pyschotic and not really "emo."
2. Not all cutters are Emos.
3. Ulq DID have a desire to "feel." He was extremely interested in feeling and was very curious about the human heart. His last dying words reflected that. (Kind of Emo, in and of itself, no less.)
4. Using that site to define the word "Emo", which isn't an official word, is not the best option. The best option would be Urban dictionary because the top definitions are voted on by the people. Since the word is not official but more cultural, the word is best defined as voted on at a place such as urbandictionary. In fact, the definition on that website could actually be inaccurate, if the "apathetic" portion of the portion "Emo" is applied. The emotional part of being "Emo" is just one small portion. Depression is much more of a definition of Emo than "emotional".
5. Ulq, by far, is not a nihilist. In fact, almost every aspect of him runs opposite to nihilism. If you can show me where he's tried for destruction, anarchy, etc., I'll believe you. By the simple fact that Ulq. follows Aizen's rules almost to the T, he flies directly into the face of a nihilist attitude. He listened to every word Aizen commanded him...that I can recall. Grimmjow, on the otherhand, could be considered a Nihilist, to a certain extent. He even defied the "rules", argued on more than one occasion, sought only to fight (destruction), etc.
Emo's would more closely resemble manic depressive disorder: swinging from an apathetic depressive state to a psychotic angry state. Ulq did both of those.
On top of this, it is the dark dreary look that also "shapes" the Emo. This has longer shaggy black hair with pale skin...which gets its roots from the Emo sub-genre of punk/alternative music.
I'll give you this: Ulq is much more the apathetic portion of "emo" than he is the psychotic portion...which may be why so many of you don't call him Emo.
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Well, for starters, Ulquiorra wears all white...so no dark clothes.
And I highly doubt he listens to any music.
Except all his dialogue points to him not caring atout anything. He addresses everything in an alaytical, detached manner. He outright scorns emotional actions like Ichigo and co. breaking into Los Noches to rescue Orihime. It's quite obvious he does understand emotions as he easily could use them against people like Ichigo. It's just he apparently regarded them as retarded.
Urban dictionary is basically a joke site. I've read definitions on it and they're all pretty much intended to be laughable.
Complete fallacy. We know nothing about the people who voted on that site. It's made even less valid by the fact the only people who would vote on that are the minorest of minorities. Their opinions don't reflect anything of consequence.
Except you just admitted it was a cultural term. Thus its definition is not universal but in fact completely subjective.
I can find several people right now who would say emo is being whiny. They learned their definition of emo from other people who learned it from other people, etc.. Thus there is a cultural definition of emo that is tantamount to being bitchy.
Hm, fair enough. I always assumed nihilism meant simply seeing no point in the continuation of life ie. why not just let everyone die. But looking up the actual defintions Ulq doesn't fit the definition of a nihilist.
Grimmjow is just the average warrior in fiction, especially anime. As far as I know he has no desire to kill everyone. He just wants to fight and prove he's the strongest.
He seems to be an egomaniac more than anything.
Ulquiorra, Grimmjow and other slike Kenpachi can't be completely shifted into any one group. By act of plot bloodthirsty monsters like Kenny and Grimm serve someone just like a deadpan guy who doesn't appear to give a flying f*ck about anything serves someone. This obedience, even if it is strained in Grimm's case, keeps them in their own little weird mental labeling limbo.
Last edited by Luminatus on Nov 5th, 2009 at 06:20 AM
Meh, all I care about is that Uluqiorra was about the only interesting one in the Espada, barring Stark and Grimmjow. Uluqiorra perhaps 'redeemed' himself, I wonder if Grimmjow will 'redeem' himself. Though in all likelihood, Aizen assassinated him .
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